yale

[cred]

hi guys,
went to a lockout last night and when i arrived looked at the lock and it was a yale, the ones with the all in 1 shroud around the lock, and it looked like it had a circular plate around covering the plug,to make picking and drilling hard (last resort mind you) do these locks deadlock automaticly when shut, got in back door when i looked at the rear of the yale lock (night latch) it was the ones that have a red snib, anyone got any opinions on this lock for future reference.
thanx
ray

[mbell]

Sounds very much like the Yale PBS1. They're one of Yale's higher quality locks.

Automatic deadlocking and usually a 6pin Yale cylinder from what I've seen.

Naturally being Yale's, you can get one that will fall open in a few seconds and another with a tricky pin config will have you stuck for ages or might even resort to other methods.

[cred]

[cred]

mbell i know what you mean about time consuming,no point struggling with that when you have a normal one round the back

[toomush2drink]

Yes definately a pbs1, retail around £70 depending on the case ie chrome etc. I wondered what i would do if i came across one of these and thought of the backdoor first so lets hope i dont get one on a 10th floor flat.

[cred]

yes back doors make good backup!

[Rockford]

Not only back doors - keep an eye on ground/first floor windows also. I've entered a building via a landing window - using the owners ladders (kept in an unlocked garage !). Walked downstairs and opened the doors for them (keys left in rear patio doors, front UPVC door jammed on the mechanism).

have to check my insurance !!!.

Rockford.....

[pinky]

this can also be beaten by a letterbox kit , though an easier option is always welcome, this lock can still be impressioned.

[toomush2drink]

Does anyone here use impressioning as an entry technique on a regular basis ? Its something they seem to use over the pond but its not something you hear about being used over here that often. Maybe having letter boxes spoils us a little ?

[pinky]

its common place on warrants, i know of half a dozen lockys who impression rather than drill, no key returns, once practiced a quick opening, one locky i know averages 6 minutes a lock.

i use it only for show, as you say letterboxes spoil us as do back doors with little in the way of security and the good old sash windows.