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Vintage Adjustable Mortise Cylinder

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Vintage Adjustable Mortise Cylinder

Postby Bean44 » 4 Jun 2012 7:13

I have obtained an old Yale mortise lock and cylinder, the cylinder is adjustable. I have picked it but have tried to dis-assemble it in order to re-key to no avail. I'm certain that someone here has that knowledge and will share with me with this issue. Appears that a knowledgeable Locksmith has prepared this cylinder due to the marking and arrows stamped on the cam end. Pic's uploaded.
Hope someone can help.
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Re: Vintage Adjustable Mortise Cylinder

Postby clearmoon247 » 4 Jun 2012 7:35

i would recommend uploading the image to either imgur.com or tinypic.com and posting the link
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Re: Vintage Adjustable Mortise Cylinder

Postby Bean44 » 4 Jun 2012 13:08

Trying to upload again, No luck this time either!



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Re: Vintage Adjustable Mortise Cylinder

Postby cledry » 4 Jun 2012 16:35

Bean44 wrote:I have obtained an old Yale mortise lock and cylinder, the cylinder is adjustable. I have picked it but have tried to dis-assemble it in order to re-key to no avail. I'm certain that someone here has that knowledge and will share with me with this issue. Appears that a knowledgeable Locksmith has prepared this cylinder due to the marking and arrows stamped on the cam end. Pic's uploaded.
Hope someone can help.
Sincerely,

Raymond

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If it is like the Russwin adjustable cylinder you remove a screw, the same one that extends the body until the threaded portion comes off, then rekey it the normal way.
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Re: Vintage Adjustable Mortise Cylinder

Postby Raymond » 4 Jun 2012 17:51

Even without seeing it I will venture a guess on how to take it apart. Unscrew the adjustment screw all the way. The threaded shell will then pull off of the actual cylinder. The retainer on back of the plug will now be exposed for rekeying.
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Re: Vintage Adjustable Mortise Cylinder

Postby Squelchtone » 4 Jun 2012 17:58

Bean44 wrote:Trying to upload again, No luck this time either!



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Check out what Clearmoon247 recommended doing. We know the forum server is full, pleae upload your pics somewhere else like tinypic.com and then paste the http://tinypic.com/yourpic.jpg link here, just the link, not your actual .jpg file.

good luck,
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Re: Vintage Adjustable Mortise Cylinder

Postby Bean44 » 4 Jun 2012 20:13

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Here are the links, I hope it works!

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Re: Vintage Adjustable Mortise Cylinder

Postby Bean44 » 4 Jun 2012 20:26

Bye Golly! I do believe it worked.

I tried to un-screw the adjustment ring all the way, but it came to a dead stop and would not budge and the ring does move very easily until it stops in both directions. I'd like to know what the arrows are for, maybe alignment for the dis-assembly?

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Re: Vintage Adjustable Mortise Cylinder

Postby gibson » 5 Jun 2012 11:47

from your pictures it doesn't look as if the cam comes off. the screw heads weren't visible, and it looks as if the tail of the cylinder was peened over. i would make sure the collar (ring) was loose, and then turn the plug until the arrows lined up. it looks as if it might be some type of 'bayonet' fitting where the rear end of the cylinder would pull off when the arrows were aligned.
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Re: Vintage Adjustable Mortise Cylinder

Postby Bean44 » 5 Jun 2012 13:57

Thanks for the info Gibson, in the 3rd pic there appears to be a pin maybe and looks almost like a flathead screw slot in it. I'm wondering if it was pressed in.

Thanks

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Re: Vintage Adjustable Mortise Cylinder

Postby Bean44 » 5 Jun 2012 18:38

I finally found it!(Eureka) The knurled ring did turn more and revealed a hidden screw that let me continue to turn until the cylinder came apart.

Thanks to all that shared with me to complete the task.

Sincerely,

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Re: Vintage Adjustable Mortise Cylinder

Postby Bean44 » 5 Jun 2012 19:19

Now that we've accomplished this task, I'm going to use my Framon #2 to generate a key by using the Original Key bittings from the pins to keep the lock and cylinder as Authentic as possible.
Again, Thanks to everyone for your patience and help with this project.

Sincerely,

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Re: Vintage Adjustable Mortise Cylinder

Postby Squelchtone » 5 Jun 2012 22:32

Nice job! and thank you for the follow up. Far too many people ask a question, get an answer and disappear into the ether. Thanks for posting the pics! =)

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Re: Vintage Adjustable Mortise Cylinder

Postby cledry » 6 Jun 2012 6:08

Bean44 wrote:Now that we've accomplished this task, I'm going to use my Framon #2 to generate a key by using the Original Key bittings from the pins to keep the lock and cylinder as Authentic as possible.
Again, Thanks to everyone for your patience and help with this project.

Sincerely,

Bean (Raymond)


Nice photos, look forward to seeing the key when you are finished.

Now you just have to find a vintage Yale key blank from the same era. I think the best bet might be to find a similar vintage Yale cut key and pin the lock to it. Well ... put it this way it will be easier than trying to find a vintage blank. Yale changed their logo frequently and I believe it is easy to document, but if the logo on the lock and blank were the same it would be a good indication of similar era.
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