Spool pins

[RedTalon]

I did a search on this, and found some techniques for them but still really have trouble with them. This is my first time picking and I have a master 140, and I can pick it usually by raking if I play around with it enough. But single picking, I am really having trouble with.

And I am pretty sure it is because of the spool pins. Kind of just wondering if anyone has some good tricks for itentifing and getting past these?I did a search on this, and found some techniques for them but still really have trouble with them. This is my first time picking and I have a master 140, and I can pick it usually by raking if I play around with it enough. But single picking, I am really having trouble with.

And I am pretty sure it is because of the spool pins. Kind of just wondering if anyone has some good tricks for identifying and getting past these?

[Buggs41]

Wow,

I think I just had a De'Va'Ju experience.

With spool pins, you have to be very light on the tension, and feel the false set of the pin.

[RedTalon]

is the false set below or above the sheer line? meaning if you false set should you be pushing less, or more?

[Buggs41]

the false set is usually below the shear line. When you hit the false set, the plug will rotate slightly. If you add a little more pressure on the pin, you will feel the tension wrench pull back against you. Ease up on the tension a little bit, and try to balance the two forces you are working against. If you get it just right, the pin will slam home, and you are on your way! Provided there aren't more security pins in it.

[Mad Mick]

The spool pin false-sets across the shear line, due to it's shape.....think of a cotton reel (spool). Further pushing on a false-set spool pin will result in a counter-rotation of the tension wrench. You need to slightly ease up on the tension, to allow the false-set pin to set correctly, then proceed to repick any pins that may have become unset whilst doing so.

[Mad Mick]

! Why does someone else post whilst I'm writing my post. Just kidding.

You probably got the answer you are looking for.

[RedTalon]

ah ya I definatly feel the counter actin on some of the pins. Not exactly sure what my mean by letting off some torquw though. Do you just let off pressure, with out touching the pin with your pick and let the pin drop down till it catches on the right spot.

Or do you have to push up with the pick on the pin, while letting off pressure with the tension wrench?

[Buggs41]

Push up on the pin. You are trying to get the smaller diameter of the spool pin above the shear line.



Sorry Mad Mick!

[MrB]

Torque is turning force on the tension (i.e. torque) wrench.

If a spool pin catches at the shear line it will resist further upward force from the pick.

If you let off a little with the torque wrench you can free the spool pin and be able to raise it past the shear line, but this letting off of torque may release some other pins that are already set and let them drop down again. If you release torque very gently you may be able to avoid this happening.

[YelseW]

Are there spools in the Master Lock Combination Padlock with the serial number starting with V55 commonly used in highschools? It is a combination lock but there is a keyhole at the back of it. I can always pick the keyhole and turn it to about 35 degrees clockwise but it never opens. All the pins are up and the tumblers are down with no resistence. The lock wont even turn counter-clockwise. Can anyone help me to pick this lock? It is a Master Lock Combination Padlock starting with the V55 serial code number

[skold]

no, no spools in them, but it may be a master pins getting in the way of you turning the plug

[YelseW]

Thanks! But a master pin is....and it is getting in my way because.....so how do i solve it? Thanks alot for answering, I just need more detail. I also sprayed WD-40 to make the pins more spring-like and movable. How many pins are in my lock and I am raking by the way.

[skold]

3 pins, i dont know how many masters

[YelseW]

So what is a master pin anyways? How do i solve it?

[skold]

...search and you stop picking too heavy handedly