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Problem finding binding pins

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Problem finding binding pins

Postby Lesh18 » 1 Jul 2012 13:52

I have adjusted my standard door lock so that it has only two pins now (the most front). However, I am struggling with finding a binding pin. I have tried increasing and decreasing the pressure on the tension wrench but nothing helped. When I press both pins simultaneously, deep enough and sort of randomly, the lock opens easily. But I just cannot open it with a SPP.

What am I doing wrong?
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Re: Problem finding binding pins

Postby youngpicker99 » 1 Jul 2012 14:03

The binding pin should be the one that is hardest to push
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Re: Problem finding binding pins

Postby Lesh18 » 1 Jul 2012 14:14

Both are equally easy to push. And none of them won't click.

Isn't the problem that I use some clumsy hand-made picks? That for SPP one needs a proper southord/other brand pick?
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Re: Problem finding binding pins

Postby Solomon » 1 Jul 2012 14:18

The picks probably aren't the issue. One pin should feel noticably stiffer than the other, maybe putting the pins further apart so you know exactly which one you're on will help at first. For example if you put the pins in chambers 1 & 5, there's just no way you can set them both at the same time unless you're doing something really wrong. :mrgreen:
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Re: Problem finding binding pins

Postby Lesh18 » 1 Jul 2012 14:28

Maybe, but I've also noticed that pushing deeper pins (2, 3...) is a lot harder and feels different than pushing the first pin, so it is hard to tell difference between the first and second pin.
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Re: Problem finding binding pins

Postby Lesh18 » 1 Jul 2012 14:29

Maybe, but I've also noticed that pushing deeper pins (2, 3...) is a lot harder and feels different than pushing the first pin, so it is hard to tell difference between the first and second pin.
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Re: Problem finding binding pins

Postby Solomon » 1 Jul 2012 14:38

Lesh18 wrote:Maybe, but I've also noticed that pushing deeper pins (2, 3...) is a lot harder and feels different than pushing the first pin, so it is hard to tell difference between the first and second pin.

That isn't cos the pin is deeper in the lock, it's because that's the binding pin. 8)
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Re: Problem finding binding pins

Postby Buzo » 19 Jul 2012 18:53

You might try changing where you're placing tension. Try putting tension at the top of the keyway instead of the bottom. Or depending on what type of cylinder you are trying to pick, change the direction you are putting tension (clockwise, counter-clockwise). Give that a shot and see if you can feel the difference.
Its all about the feeling in that instant when you realize... The plug turned!!
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Re: Problem finding binding pins

Postby atticRR » 19 Jul 2012 22:43

try this as a test: with those two pins in put a ton of tension on, do both pins still move? if this is the case i'll guess that you didnt fully empty out another chamber and theres another pin(s) in there-probably in 3 and youre accidently pressing all three up. Ive done this so i know its possible, unfortunately. Its weird that both pins are easy to move every time, you didnt mention them binding at all, why? do they?

i also dont think its the pick by the way...

try the test and tell us whats up, ok?
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