Guard Security

[dauce]

Hello all. So i just recieved my first pick set in the mail yesterday. I ordered the set for american locks. Ive played with it for about two hurs with no luck. Are american style locks hard to come by? I have a brinks and a guard security brand padlocks. Should i be able to pick these with my set?

Thanks much

[Squelchtone]

Hello all. So i just recieved my first pick set in the mail yesterday. I ordered the set for american locks. Ive played with it for about two hurs with no luck. Are american style locks hard to come by? I have a brinks and a guard security brand padlocks. Should i be able to pick these with my set?

Thanks much

Your lock pick set is not magical, and it is not automatic, it will take time and practice to pick a lock. Just having a lock pick set and inserting into a lock doesn't open the lock. Of course it does not help that you are starting out on locks that both have anti-pick security pins inside them. Both the Brinks and Guard have spool pins, and the Guard has a very heavy spring to over come.

What pick set do you have and which wrench and pick are you using to pick the locks? Do you know how locks work, or are you just inserting picks and lifting the pins all the way up? There is much to learn about how locks, pins, springs, and plugs work before attempting to pick a lock, and all the information can be found on this forum.

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Welcome to the forum!
Squelchtone

[dauce]

Thanks much Squelchtone. I appreciate the feedback. Yes I am from the U.S.

I have been, and continue to read the beginner information on this site - it has been quite helpful. I will try to round up an easier lock to pick for now though!

Thanks again,

[Squelchtone]

Thanks much Squelchtone. I appreciate the feedback. Yes I am from the U.S.

I have been, and continue to read the beginner information on this site - it has been quite helpful. I will try to round up an easier lock to pick for now though!

Thanks again,

Best way to learn is to get a deabdolt such as a Brinks double sided deadbolt from Walmart for $14 and take apart one side to see exactly what's in there, and then pin it up progressively 1 pin stack, then 2 pin stack, and so on until you can pick 5 pin stacks with out any trouble, you can also alternate high-low-high pin key cut combinations, and try your luck with the spool pins inside that Brinks includes to slow down picking attacks.

digital blue wrote a nice guide for beginners, look around for it.

Squelchtone

[MarkMcGrath]

I totally destroyed a lot of skill by starting off raking American locks. I got a set of Bogota's and ripped through 3 locks before I realized I couldn't actually pick, just jiggle and pray so to speak. Start slow, and defiantly step up. If you look up Deviant Ollam he has a great book on lockpicking if you are 1 source, hard time with forums kinda guy like me.

[raimundo]

The bogota pick set has a skeletonized half diamond pick for SPP though a hook even shorter than the height of this peak is also very useful
you did not destroy any skill by learning raking, you simply found a way to open locks that may appear unskilled to you but raking is a skill involving the correct tension and other things like technique. I still reccommend the jittery too much coffee approach but there are other ways.
What you did by raking is learn to recognize when the plug is ready to rotate. and if you raked spool pins as it seems you did,
that too is a learning experience.
there is no reason why raking should be blamed for someone who simply dosent learn spp. the best pickers do both, probably with the raking coming first because its when that fails that SPP is the next option. raking just gets the easy part quickly. you can maintain tension after ten seconds of rakeing an put a half diamond in there and find the pins that are still holdingout.
LIGHT TENSION

[MarkMcGrath]

The bogota pick set has a skeletonized half diamond pick for SPP though a hook even shorter than the height of this peak is also very useful
you did not destroy any skill by learning raking, you simply found a way to open locks that may appear unskilled to you but raking is a skill involving the correct tension and other things like technique. I still reccommend the jittery too much coffee approach but there are other ways.
What you did by raking is learn to recognize when the plug is ready to rotate. and if you raked spool pins as it seems you did,
that too is a learning experience.
there is no reason why raking should be blamed for someone who simply dosent learn spp. the best pickers do both, probably with the raking coming first because its when that fails that SPP is the next option. raking just gets the easy part quickly. you can maintain tension after ten seconds of rakeing an put a half diamond in there and find the pins that are still holdingout.
LIGHT TENSION

I think what I destroyed was my urge to fiddle around picking a lock without raking. The Bogota picks literally just let me melt through a lock, and at the time I was learning to save my life then the pure satisfaction of actually opening a lock. The bogota's were so effective that I at the time mistakenly thought I didn't need to learn good picking skills. IE the tools didn't ruin me, the ease at opening the lock and my mentality did.