Question about Kwikset Blue Punch code punch

[zeke79]

I have a quick question about the Kwikset blue punch code punch that hopefully someone here can answer. Why on earth does this machine have a spot on the depth bar for an 8 cut? I know the kwikset has a 7 depth but I have no information that I have seen that has an 8 cut listed.

Can anyone tell me why this cut is on the depth bar?

[sugurfoot]

Could it be there for when you cut another key that does use the 8? Maybe Yale or some brand that is the same except they have deeper cuts? Just a guess.....

[zeke79]

If that is the case then it is not in any of the literature. This really has me stumped.

[sugurfoot]

I have a Rytan 2000. It's set up to do both Kwikset and Schlage but I have to change one part, a space bar, to cut the other brand key blank. I just thought some company might make a machine to work two types if the spaceing and everything were the same? Probably not, but it was a thought.

[MacGyver101]

This is a real shot in the dark... but LSDA used to make a deadbolt that incorporated a keyway that would work with a Kwikset KW1 blank. They used a different depth/spacing standard, though, which included eight depths -- it used depth increments of 0.020" and the #8 cut was 0.180", which is shallower than the #7 cut (0.190") on a standard Kwikset.

Don't know if that helps to answer your question, or just adds more confusion.

[zeke79]

I dont think that's it. To give some insight, if I were to use an 8 cut on a KW key it cuts clear past the bitting area of the key and down into the warding.

[thelockpickkid]

Is it so that you can cut Kw1's for the dexter locksets??

[zeke79]

Again, if it is there is nothing in the literature about it. It may just be one of those mysteries that doesn't get solved.

[thelockpickkid]

ok, I think I found the reason why. I did some research and what I get is that the code bar for the blue punch, for Kwikset, also cuts Yale residential, and unless I am mistaken, has 8 depths, and for some 9's. I found that when I read the literature.

[gunbunny119]

I just got a key in my store that is confusing the heck out of me and found this thread about a kwikset "8". Customer walked in and handed me your typical chinese knock-off kwikset blank but it was cut very deep. Confirmed it was a standard kw1 blank. first throught was some hack rekeyed the lock and used an oversized pin then carved the key in to work with it. (I've seen stranger things happen) Customer said it's a new lock that came with the garage kit and has never been rekeyed. Looked at the keyhead and the code 15388 is even factory stamped into the head, not hand stamped. The "8" cuts are indeed well into the ward...strangest thing I have ever seen. put a blank in my 1200 cut the key with this imaginary 8 code eyeballing my kwikset card and it works. I told the customer I don't know what the hell the Chinese company was thinking when they made this code but told him to rekey it, as the key is doomed to failure. not only did they manage to cut a key at the depth of 8, but they even stamped the head 8, so it's not a factory mis-cut.

anybody else ever run into a chinese kwikset type lock with an "8" cut like this?

Insane.

[MBI]

That's quite a necro post, but interesting new information nevertheless. I've never run into an 8 cut Kwikset. In fact a 7 cut is deeper than I'm really comfortable with unless it's out towards the tip. Weird stuff.