Problem with a master lock, I spent hours. I Cant Pick it !

[CodyOebel]

OK, so out of the blue, for no reason really other than the purpose of a needed skill for survival should stuff hit the fan. I told myself I will learn lock picking. So I bought a 5 pin practice lock off ebay. Picked it, got the idea, and of course I wanted to pick a real lock. I bought a pack of locks from harbour freight for a cheap pick session. I quickly picked those locks after some practice. Once I got fast at it I thought O.k time to pick a "Master Lock". Strapped on cash, but now ABSOLUTELY addicted to defeating locks I stopped at home depot, and bought this lock.

This lock states MAXIMUM SECURITY AGAINST PICKING !! I didnt know I chose such a hard lock to pick!
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-25ecodZ5yc1v/R-100198607/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=master+lock&storeId=10051

I cannot for the life of me in any way sucessfully pick this lock. I am reaching out to you guys for help. Ive looked at the key and noticed the first pin should not be pressed up into it's cylinder in order to be flush with the shear line. This for me is what is making it difficult. Second .. it's spring loaded.. When I put the key in, it takes some pressure to counter the spring in there to unlock the lock. Looks like I accidently bought a hard lock to pick when I was just after something different, but now I'm obsessed on picking this thing. 6 hours.. no success. I need help folks. Please give me some motivation

I have a "Wallet"\Credit Card sized holder pick set to work with. Can it be done with this?
I have some home made tools I made as well, such as a torsion wrench, but nothing is making this easy on me.

[MortimerDuke]

I made the mistake of selecting this same lock early on. It is not a good lock for a beginner. It is small, has poor tolerances and one that I took apart had 3 spool pins. That being said, after you have a few other padlocks under your belt, you will be able pick this without too much difficulty and wonder why it was so difficult before.

Get a Master #3, #5, or a Magnum. They (I think) all have at least one security pin and all of them will let you know when you've set a pin. If you want to try an (even easier) deadbolt, get an double-sided Kwikset or Defiant from Home Depot.

Good Luck

[Darkness1569]

Get a Master #3, #5, or a Magnum. They (I think) all have at least one security pin and all of them will let you know when you've set a pin. If you want to try an (even easier) deadbolt, get an double-sided Kwikset or Defiant from Home Depot.

Good Luck

yeah you should pick up a Masterlock #3, it’s cheap and really good for a beginner. You can also get a Brinks normal security padlock, if you get a high or maximum security padlock it may come with spool pins so they are best for later on.

I have yet to find a Masterlock #3 with security pins in it. But I only have had 8 of them.

[MortimerDuke]

I have yet to find a Masterlock #3 with security pins in it. But I only have had 8 of them.

You're correct, the #3 doesn't have security pins and neither does the #5. I'm standing behind my statement on the Magnums, though.

[CodyOebel]

So this lock I chose just happened to be one heck of a hard lock to pick as a novice lock picker. I LOVE IT

Now I'm dead set on figuring this sucker out.

[raimundo]

skimming the thread, I got the impression that you are using those picks that come as a credit card size and have to be broken out of the card.
such picks need sanding to work well and they could also use some reduction in the size of the the picktips, they usually supply a hook that is too high and a pickshaft that is probably too wide.
each of these can be corrected with a little bit of judicious use of a file and sand paper.

drag the edge of your fingernail along the top edge of the pickshaft, and if it is not perfectly smooth, it needs sanding.

I reccommend the reduction in size of that hook and thinning of the pick shaft but dont overdo it. though the hook could easily be made half as high and would then in my opinion be much more useful.

the hooks that I like these days are short and shorter with shafts sanded to prevent friction in the wards.

[CodyOebel]

skimming the thread, I got the impression that you are using those picks that come as a credit card size and have to be broken out of the card.
such picks need sanding to work well and they could also use some reduction in the size of the the picktips, they usually supply a hook that is too high and a pickshaft that is probably too wide.
each of these can be corrected with a little bit of judicious use of a file and sand paper.

drag the edge of your fingernail along the top edge of the pickshaft, and if it is not perfectly smooth, it needs sanding.

I reccommend the reduction in size of that hook and thinning of the pick shaft but dont overdo it. though the hook could easily be made half as high and would then in my opinion be much more useful.

the hooks that I like these days are short and shorter with shafts sanded to prevent friction in the wards.

Nope it didnt need to be broken out of the card. They are loose. Kit normally is 30$, but I found it online for a bit less.
The kit is similar to what this site sells, or the discrete "Credit Card" holding pick set. They are very thin, so I could nearly double them together and make them fit most locks. This is to give you an idea of what I am working with.


*** Just bought a Grand Master LPK620 lock pick set for 40$ off a Tow Truck Owner who was hurting for cash with a smashed up tow truck and not business** Is that a good price? I acquired these yesterday! I'm still unable to get this darn lock!

I dont understand it's internals! Here at work I have no access to youtube. So I can only read and see diagrams, but dont know what tutorials to be looking for.

[globallockytoo]

super light tension

[Dukerdog]

I have this as well try a half diamond pick and go slow with light tension or
Maybe your not saying openseasamee.
Good luck.
Marc