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Buying an anti-pick lock

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Buying an anti-pick lock

Postby Oimi » 27 Aug 2012 1:39

Hello there, I am looking for a modestly priced padlock to secure some valuables whilst out and about. I was wondering what padlocks people would recommend which are sub-£15.00 and would be more difficult to pick than some of the master locks I have seen picked on youtube using nothing more than a hair grip and a pen clip? Please let me know.

Thank you in anticipation.
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Re: Buying an anti-pick lock

Postby Solomon » 27 Aug 2012 8:03

Buy a cheap disc detainer if you're worried about picking. They're still fairly easy, but anyone with casual knowledge of lock picking is usually limited to pin tumblers and won't have a clue what to do with it or what the mechanism is even called. A lot of people tend to assume that everything is a pin tumbler, and become completely baffled when they can't feel any pins... we see this from time to time in the case of warded padlocks lol. Not to mention most people who are familiar with disc detainers can only open them with the dedicated tools, and it takes them a while to do so. Not many people seem to be able to open them quickly (much less with improvised tools), and this is with locks they've had time to practice on beforehand.

I think for about £15 you can buy one made by Monterey, which are actually pretty high quality and use false gates. They also have hardened shackles and a drill plate over the front disc. If you wanna go cheaper you could look at the likes of am-tech, blue spot, or silverline. Can pick those up for under a fiver.
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Re: Buying an anti-pick lock

Postby Oimi » 27 Aug 2012 8:59

Thank you for your reply! Can you please tell me exactly how to find this Monterey lock? Tried searching for Monterey lock on Amazon and found nothing.
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Re: Buying an anti-pick lock

Postby Squelchtone » 27 Aug 2012 11:21

Oimi wrote:Thank you for your reply! Can you please tell me exactly how to find this Monterey lock? Tried searching for Monterey lock on Amazon and found nothing.


ebay.co.uk, although right now I do not see any Monterey brand locks, usually there are many to choose from.

This is a disc detainer padlock, look at the interesting keys, normal lock picks cannot pick this type of lock.

great price, good protection from picking:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/320222580305

or look up SOBO brand
http://www.amazon.com/SOBO-SPRS-KD-Shrouded-Shackle-Security/dp/B001LFPJXQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1346083928&sr=8-2&keywords=sobo+padlock

good luck,
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Re: Buying an anti-pick lock

Postby Oimi » 29 Aug 2012 7:19

Thank you for your reply. Can you please confirm whether the thickness of the metal in the u shape is 5mm thick? It is important that it is no thicker because it wont fit through the anchor otherwise.
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Re: Buying an anti-pick lock

Postby Darkness1569 » 29 Aug 2012 8:52

The SOBO has a 12 MM shackle and I am not sure about the Silverline, but since it is a 50MM lock I'm going to guess that the shackle on it is bigger than 5 MM
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Re: Buying an anti-pick lock

Postby Oimi » 29 Aug 2012 13:33

Thank you for your reply. That is unfortunate as I really need it to be the right size but also secure. Any suggestions?
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Re: Buying an anti-pick lock

Postby Solomon » 29 Aug 2012 17:07

You're not gonna get a properly secure padlock with a 5mm thick shackle. That's basically a luggage lock. Someone could break it off without much trouble to be honest and any lock that size will generally have ridiculous tolerances, so will be very easy to pick. Some of them can be swines but the chances of you just happening to get one that's actually difficult to pick are very slim. What exactly is it you're securing anyway and why does the padlock have to be so tiny?
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Re: Buying an anti-pick lock

Postby zeepia » 30 Aug 2012 0:27

Buy an Abloy PL320. Shackle is 4,94mm in my lock and no average joe is gonna pick it. Price from finnish netstore is 21,5€ with two keys, classic keyway. You can choose from two different shackle heights.

Every single lock with that shackle size breaks easily with bolt cutters. If you fear that to happen, you can get one of those noisy anti-thief locks with siren. Althought they might have a lousy lock in them...
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Re: Buying an anti-pick lock

Postby Oimi » 30 Aug 2012 1:36

I am securing my photography kit whilst leaving valuables in their bag, attached to a wheelchair near ride exits at theme parks. I am using a Pacsafe to contain my bag and it works by having a wire with bumps on it which go through a solid loop, and you can pull the slack through the solid loop until the hole is too small to get the bag out of. The bumps fit through the solid loop until you put a padlock through the solid loop.

PAcsafe: http://www.amazon.co.uk/PacSafe-Secure- ... 94&sr=8-20
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Re: Buying an anti-pick lock

Postby Oimi » 30 Aug 2012 1:38

I have also got a large padlock with an alarm in it to deter thieves a little.
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Re: Buying an anti-pick lock

Postby Oimi » 30 Aug 2012 7:03

Thoughts?
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Re: Buying an anti-pick lock

Postby globallockytoo » 31 Aug 2012 15:25

I am curious ads to why anyone would want to secure theIr high priced valuables, like camera gear, with an elcheapo padlock? Are your possessions just not worth securing? Remember the old saying, 'Pay peanuts, expect monkeys'!
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Re: Buying an anti-pick lock

Postby Josh66 » 31 Aug 2012 20:52

Oimi wrote:Thoughts?

I would try to find an Abloy PL320 or 321 like zeepia mentioned, if you can make room in your budget for it.

Won't stop bolt cutters, but hopefully you won't have to worry about somebody walking around an amusement park with bolt cutters...
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