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spring loaded plugs

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spring loaded plugs

Postby tai » 21 Sep 2004 15:53

How do you pick a lock that has a spring loaded plug. it is hard to determine how much torque to apply to set the pins. Also the tension wrench has to be as strong as the actual key to turn the cyclinder.
I'm a newbie, any ideas, sugesstions, special type of tool needed would help. Thanks
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Postby locksmistress » 21 Sep 2004 16:10

"spring loaded plug"

As in perhaps a padlock?

If it's what I'm thinking and you have doubts about the strength of your tension tool, supplement your torque with a screw driver.

Pick the lock and as soon as the plug turns get a small-ish screw driver in the keyway to turn it the rest of the way.

Depending on how restrictive the keyway is you could also experiment with beefier tension tools or with making the bit that goes into the keyhole longer.

Too much pressure on the tension wrench is a common foible for pickers (not just newbies, I've been doing it off and on for 10 years and tension is still what screws me up) so be careful not to overdo it.

I may also be misunderstanding what you're talking about - have any pictures or brand names?
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Springy plugged lock! :)

Postby S3rratedSp00L » 21 Sep 2004 18:23

I am going to assume the same as Lockmistress and say padlock? If you just need more tension, then her suggestion is right on the money!

If you are talking about the initial tension and tension just while picking, this may help:

I have a Brinks R70 Diskus style lock that has a spring loaded plug... well, it's actually some part of the mechanism I would imagine...

anyway, when picking something like this, I try to imagine it more in terms of plug rotation than in how much tension. Just thinking of it in this way seems to help me out a bit.

Stick in your tension wrench and bounce it a few times to get a feel for where it stops and then push it about that far and just use enough tension to hold it there. When you feel a click or two from pins possibly setting, then you have the right amount of tension. (or close at least!)

The brinks that I have has spools or shrooms, and I find that when I false set a spool I sometimes need to push on the wrench harder for just a second to get the spool to false set so I can neutralize it.

Neutralizing a spool on a lock with a spring loaded plug can be a bit mushy. I find it hard to feel things on this particular lock, but it just takes some getting used to.

The bottom line in my humble opinion is this:

It's not much harder, just a bit different! :)

Just concentrate on trying to keep the tension wrench "balanced" against the spring tension to keep it in the same spot and keep feeling for clicks to tell you when things are starting to go your way! Gently persuade the lock to open! :)

If you still have trouble, well, come back and give us the specifics, but please search first. You may find a thread that starts to answer your question, or describes your problem in a way you never thought of. :)

Oh! and good luck with your springy plugged lock! :) Pick it till it opens!
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Postby Cat » 22 Sep 2004 16:00

Read and follow the MIT guid exercises.
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Postby Cat » 22 Sep 2004 16:00

That was supposed to read "MIT guide"
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Postby seahawk » 4 Oct 2004 18:58

edit ur post
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Postby seahawk » 4 Oct 2004 18:59

oh nvm i guess u can't :oops: on other forums i used to edit stuff
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Postby Cat » 5 Oct 2004 14:40

you ressurected this post from the bowels of hell for that?

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Re: spring loaded plugs

Postby frostbyte » 5 Oct 2004 15:30

tai wrote:How do you pick a lock that has a spring loaded plug. it is hard to determine how much torque to apply to set the pins. Also the tension wrench has to be as strong as the actual key to turn the cyclinder.
I'm a newbie, any ideas, sugesstions, special type of tool needed would help. Thanks


I use a strong elastic or two to hold the shackle down. Decreases the torque required without requiring finger gymnastics.

Here: I always keep a couple elastics,
at least one lock,
and a camera in my vest...
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