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Bogota's

Picked all the easy locks and want to step up your game? Further your lock picking techniques, exchange pro tips, videos, lessons, and develop your skills here.

Re: Bogata's

Postby SALocksmith » 11 Sep 2010 12:46

For some reason, it never occurred to me to use just a plug and bottom pins, that sounds like an excellent exercise, thanks Rai
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Re: Bogata's

Postby Rickthepick » 12 Oct 2010 3:14

I find that bogotas work better if you just jiggle them around gently as oppose to back and forth raking.
The more random you can make your movement the better they work under very light tension.
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Re: Bogata's

Postby raimundo » 12 Oct 2010 10:46

try that when youve had four large cups of coffee. it works for me. :lol:
Wake up and smell the Kafka!!!
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Re: Bogata's

Postby Brantley » 12 Nov 2010 17:51

I had never heard of a bogata pick till two days ago and to be honest I thought it was just another rake. Then I made one and then another and once you try one you will love them. I have made these my go to picks.
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Re: Bogata's

Postby sterry20 » 18 Oct 2012 14:35

when i first started picking i was told that rakeing was the ez est way to pick a lock but i also learned and struggled with the spp method until i had it down pad and im glad i did. but later i saw a technique on speed picking useing a bogota i now use two picks the bogota to set a few pins (the low pins) then a diamond or hook to finish off the pick with light tension only and i find very few locks i cant open in just a few minutes even with security pins ! Some times i can open the cheap 5 pin locks and most pad locks with one or two light strokes with only the bogota and the same light tension the sere picks are just another tool in my tool box with this rakeing technique and the right tool with the right bends.
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Re: Bogata's

Postby Jedilocksmith » 19 Oct 2012 13:34

I agree. I just recieved my first set of bogotas from serepick a few weeks ago and I am fully impressed. If the bogota doesnt pop the lock open in a few strokes, I take out my hook and finish it off with SPP. Generally there is only 1or2 pins left to set, if any. The bogota is definitely the first pick I grab for now.
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Re: Bogata's

Postby rerun » 19 Oct 2012 21:43

raimundo wrote:Dont try to bind pins up with the rake, try to keep them in the air like a juggler, then pulse the tensor lightly.


That sums it up perfectly. I bought a set of these when I got into lock picking after reading about how effective they are on this forum. Couple of years later and it's still the first pick i go to. I'll also say that I feel like the techniques required to use the bogotas efficiently helped me evolve my skills and gave me a greater understanding of proper tension with different locks, which is often the biggest hurdle for beginners. Somewhat puzzling for me as a hobbyist to see a professional knock my favorite tool when I've had such success with it but hey, to each their own.
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Re: Bogata's

Postby rerun » 19 Oct 2012 21:49

..and that's what happens when you don't read entire threads :roll:
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Re: Bogata's

Postby Ward » 30 Mar 2013 18:38

I too have a set of Bogatas from Serepick. Would like to find a set of handmade ones from Raimundo. Anyone know where I can order a set?
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Re: Bogata's

Postby MrAnybody » 31 Mar 2013 5:06

Ward wrote:I too have a set of Bogatas from Serepick. Would like to find a set of handmade ones from Raimundo. Anyone know where I can order a set?


You can PM the creator: memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2542

However, he hasn't been around the board for some months now, and he's also had some health issues in recent months. Be patient if you do PM.
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Re: Bogata's

Postby Ward » 31 Mar 2013 19:50

PM sent.
Thanks, I guess I should have considered the obvious. I had seen his posts here but figured there was a retail outlet for his work. Going to the man himself seems like a logical choice.
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Re: Bogata's

Postby escher7 » 30 Apr 2013 7:24

For those who want the Bogota style, Google "Southord Pagoda Picks" The whole set is $40, and to get the two most common is $5 apiece. These are stainless handled high quality picks, representing Southord's version of the Bogotas and they have the whole range in the set. Like the originals, if used in a rocking motion they open many locks. If the locks are pinned with deep valleys or other hard methods you will still have to single pick as they are not magic, but by trying the two and three hump versions first, you will save yourself a lot of work on most locks.
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Re: Bogata's

Postby RubberBanned » 16 May 2013 12:40

I suppose this would fall under the "bogota" category.... Do the "flats" work as effectively? Or is the handle integral to its effectiveness? I'm in the market for bogotas, but want to make the right choice. Any feedback is much appreciated, thanks!
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Re: Bogata's

Postby MrAnybody » 16 May 2013 13:10

RubberBanned wrote:I suppose this would fall under the "bogota" category.... Do the "flats" work as effectively? Or is the handle integral to its effectiveness? I'm in the market for bogotas, but want to make the right choice. Any feedback is much appreciated, thanks!


Working effectively is more dependent on your technique. However, Rai's curved handles are designed to limit the amount of pressure you can put on the pins as you rake, as well as adding some bounce/spring in the motion. In short, they are designed to prevent the user from getting into the habit of applying too much pressure. This makes them very effective.

Getting used to the curved handle takes some practice since it's different from everything else, but once you've perfected your technique they work extremely well.

The flats don't provide this, and I've found that once I was used to the bogota curves, I wouldn't want to go there either. Saying that, I feel a lot more control of tension when I use a regular tension tool (my preference is a
Peterson Pry-bar) rather than using the second of the pair as a tension tool. Since the bend is not 90' I find they can slip.

One other thing even though it's not connected to your question, I'll say it nonetheless. Unless you're buying from Serepick or directly from Rai, I won't recommend them to anyone purely because I have a strong opinion on established companies ripping-off the original designs of the creator. Rai does sell his picks through Serepick as well as giving them permission to make the non-handmade versions, and there's also couple of resellers I can't recall. My 2 cents = Do Rai a favor and buy directly from him.
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Re: Bogata's

Postby RubberBanned » 16 May 2013 18:47

I would love to, but I'm looking for the titanium set. If he has any at all, I'd prefer to buy from him.
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