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Plastic Lock?!

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Re: Plastic Lock?!

Postby Darkness1569 » 21 Oct 2012 17:29

Evan wrote:@Darkness1569:

Because unlocked fire extinguisher cabinets provide blunt instrumentation to anyone who happens by that makes use of them, such cabinets also leave the extinguishers open to tampering or being used to make a mess by vandals...

You need some kind of lock on the cabinet because it would be stupid to have to break the glass every time you needed to inspect or replace the extinguishers, something which takes place on as often as a quarterly basis in some building occupancy categories...

Even the cheesiest lock can be used to provide what amounts to a permanent reusable tamper-seal...

~~ Evan


I just didn’t think that if a person would want to mess with one or make it a blunt instrument, that a piece of glass would stop them. The glass never stopped anyone in my high school that wanted to mess with them ( well it was probably just one or 2 trouble makers) . so I figured that all trouble makers didn’t care about the glass. :)
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Re: Plastic Lock?!

Postby Jedilocksmith » 22 Oct 2012 23:29

Here are the pictures. Hopefully this works, 1st time posting pics in here. http://s604.beta.photobucket.com/user/f ... sort=3&o=1 http://s604.beta.photobucket.com/user/f ... sort=3&o=0
You can slightly see the plastic on the top of the keyway getting in the way of pin 1. Ive worked the pin loose so it isnt jammed up anymore....as much.
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Re: Plastic Lock?!

Postby MBI » 22 Oct 2012 23:55

Wow I thought I'd seen some cheap locks in my day, but that takes the cake.
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Re: Plastic Lock?!

Postby MrWizard » 23 Oct 2012 0:01

Whoa I have never see one like that. Is that a mortise cyld or rim cyld. I was expecting something small like a cam lock. :roll:
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Re: Plastic Lock?!

Postby MrWizard » 23 Oct 2012 0:14

Whoops didn't notice you have 3 pics so it's a rim cyld. I am betting it was made for a old overhead garage door cause they are out in the weather. :|
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Re: Plastic Lock?!

Postby EmCee » 23 Oct 2012 5:44

Darkness1569 wrote:I just didn’t think that if a person would want to mess with one or make it a blunt instrument, that a piece of glass would stop them. The glass never stopped anyone in my high school that wanted to mess with them ( well it was probably just one or 2 trouble makers) . so I figured that all trouble makers didn’t care about the glass. :)
It's often said that locks only keep the honest out, but I've always thought that's a bit simplistic. If someone is determined to get in then it's pretty hard to prevent it, but between the 'honest' and the 'determined' there's a large group of 'opportunists'. They are the kind that would nip in through an open window or door or reach into an open car window and grab a phone or bag, but wouldn't actually smash their way in.

In this case, a few lads out on a beer-fueled stag do and seeing an unguarded extinguisher might well think that it would be a good larf to set it off and decorate the groom-to-be. Smashing something to get access to the extinguisher is a different level of criminality.

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Re: Plastic Lock?!

Postby Legion303 » 23 Oct 2012 6:32

Darkness1569 wrote:I just didn’t think that if a person would want to mess with one or make it a blunt instrument, that a piece of glass would stop them.


It won't, but it will alert everyone else that maybe the extinguisher should be inspected before a fire starts and someone has to rely on it.

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Re: Plastic Lock?!

Postby Jedilocksmith » 23 Oct 2012 11:51

MrWizard wrote:Whoops didn't notice you have 3 pics so it's a rim cyld. I am betting it was made for a old overhead garage door cause they are out in the weather. :|


It could be for a garage...possibly. We do get some pretty bad winters up here in Nebraska but I've still never seen a lock like this. I mean, everyones locks up here get below freezing at least a few months out of the year. This one may just go down as a mystery.

Yea, sorry about the 3rd pic. That is actually a different lock all together. That is the 1st cutaway lock I made. It is a schlage with 4 spool pins and one standard pin in the back. The lighting kinda sucked on that one.
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Re: Plastic Lock?!

Postby MrWizard » 24 Oct 2012 22:04

Can you tell if it could be this blank that works it?
Taylor 111GE Is what fit the garage door locks around this area I believe they had plastic cylds. Been a long time since I seen one I had forgot about those.

http://www.jetkeys.com/proddetail.php?prod=T7
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Re: Plastic Lock?!

Postby Altashot » 25 Oct 2012 0:53

Wow! Not was I was thinking of at all.
I was also thinking cam lock.
I have never seen one of those.
Looks to be cheaply made but maybe self lubricating, like delrin?

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Re: Plastic Lock?!

Postby Jedilocksmith » 25 Oct 2012 11:58

MrWizard wrote:Can you tell if it could be this blank that works it?
Taylor 111GE Is what fit the garage door locks around this area I believe they had plastic cylds. Been a long time since I seen one I had forgot about those.

http://www.jetkeys.com/proddetail.php?prod=T7

The sides of the keyway is so worn down its really hard to say. Im going to take it apart and ill take some more pics.
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Re: Plastic Lock?!

Postby Jedilocksmith » 25 Oct 2012 12:01

Altashot wrote:Wow! Not was I was thinking of at all.
I was also thinking cam lock.
I have never seen one of those.
Looks to be cheaply made but maybe self lubricating, like delrin?

M.

Ive never seen a self lubricating lock...interesting. How does it operate? What makes it self lubricate?
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Re: Plastic Lock?!

Postby Jedilocksmith » 25 Oct 2012 13:03

Wow, this lock keeps getting better and better. I think I may need to change the name of this thread to "Cheapest Lock Ever". So I took the cylinder out and noticed it had a seam all the way down the length of it. I pulled on it and the cylinder came apart in two pieces...easier than pulling apart two legos. Maybe from the pics of the inside of the cylinder you can tell what key fits...im still not sure. http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt12 ... hoto-5.jpg http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt12 ... hoto-6.jpg
Then I figured, since I already took it apart I'll take the cap off of the bible just to take a look. Wow. Not only is the bible not solid but you can actually take out the inside of the bible where the driver pins/springs sit. First class...all the way. http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt12 ... hoto-7.jpg http://i604.photobucket.com/albums/tt12 ... hoto-8.jpg
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Re: Plastic Lock?!

Postby GWiens2001 » 25 Oct 2012 14:22

Actually that lock is quite impressive. Think about it. With all those cheap-donkeyed parts and lousy engineering, the fact that it ever work in any way, shape or form is amazing! Well you know what they say about bumble bees. Aerodynamically, it is impossible for them to fly. Just don't tell that to a bumble bee. First of all, it won't understand you and secondly it will just fly away.

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Re: Plastic Lock?!

Postby Altashot » 25 Oct 2012 19:06

Jedilocksmith wrote:
Altashot wrote:Wow! Not was I was thinking of at all.
I was also thinking cam lock.
I have never seen one of those.
Looks to be cheaply made but maybe self lubricating, like delrin?

M.

Ive never seen a self lubricating lock...interesting. How does it operate? What makes it self lubricate?


I have never seen it as a plug either, but I have seen it as other parts in some locks.
It is the plastic itself that lubricates. I am not sure how it works, but I was once
told that it has to do with it's molecular structure. It holds lubricant between certain molecules.
As it wears it "spills" it's lubricant.

I don't believe that the lock in question here it made of that plastic, but
since it was suggested that it may be for use in a corrosive environment,
it got me thinking........

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