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Shackle Thickness vs. Pick Resistance in Europe...?

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Re: Shackle Thickness vs. Pick Resistance in Europe...?

Postby ARF-GEF » 5 Dec 2012 10:32

Glad we could help!:)

If you decide on the padlock could give us a head up?
Also it would be nice to hear if you have any relating/generally lock related experience on the trip. It's always interesting to hear an outsider's view on lock in Europe.:)
Maybe you will find something out during the trip which none of us though of in discussing the padlock choices.
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Re: Shackle Thickness vs. Pick Resistance in Europe...?

Postby lockr » 5 Dec 2012 12:42

ARF-GEF wrote:You could also try ebay.


I've got four Abloys, including two 330's (protec and profile) that i've picked up off of eBay over the years. It takes time and patience to get them via that route, and possibly a thick wallet... However, buying from other forum members is probably the best option for a number of reasons. :)
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Re: Shackle Thickness vs. Pick Resistance in Europe...?

Postby dicey » 5 Dec 2012 13:56

true, we probably put too much though into it but that's half the fun!:)


I totally agree :D

But the 3020 should be as secure as the Anchor Las well atleast on the paper (both have a CEN rating of 2) but in the real world we all know that the Anchor might be a bit more secure ;)
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Re: Shackle Thickness vs. Pick Resistance in Europe...?

Postby dicey » 5 Dec 2012 14:01

Oh and it is perfect with lockers and not that heavy...
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Re: Shackle Thickness vs. Pick Resistance in Europe...?

Postby ARF-GEF » 5 Dec 2012 14:49

LEDadd1ct: before trying to buy sth. through this forum you should check the rules. I'm not sure but I faintly recall something about minimum post count before buying/selling. (The post-count is why I suggested ebay actually.)

Heavy or not, use it or not, I would even get it just for the fun. I mean most of us has a lot more locks than they use:D and it is without doubt a very nice padlock. Somehow I find they don't often make new padlocks that beautiful nowadays.
(I still wouldn't take such an exquisite lock like 3020 on a trip. What if you loose it. Or if someone does cut the shackle. That would be such a shame. A 3020 is a lot bigger loss than an anchor las or whaterver average padlock you choose. In my opinion an abloy 3020 belongs more to a collection and should be cared for. Nurtured. Taken to the playground to play with other little locks then later on taken to the training . Maybe even read a nice fairy tale before sleepy-time. Don't forget they grow up so fast. :lol: :lol:
(I'm serious about not risking such a padlock though. But I still have to admit that it would be very-very cool. At least if I saw it on a locker I would surely find it amusing.

(just out of curiosity could you weigh the 3020? Or just give an approximate weigh if it's too much of a hassle. Because when I saw it gave the impression of being heavy. It seems I've misjudged it.)

(ps.: I'm not sure whether the direction we take the discussion is actually rule-abiding. Does it (with all the alloy stuff) count as hijacking? Just to be sure. Because I've angered a mod recently with a dumb post and I don't want to ever do that again. And if that mod is reading this: I'm sorry about that instance too.)
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Re: Shackle Thickness vs. Pick Resistance in Europe...?

Postby ARF-GEF » 5 Dec 2012 14:55

Check out what have I found:
Abloy pl3020 for sale. And it's not even expensive!

http://www.laskompaniet.se/abloy-pl3020/442-0

http://www.lukkokauppa.com/product_details.php?p=44

Couldn't find English language as an option on the sites, so I don't think they ship internationally. Well at least this could be useful in the future for Finnish or Swedish people here:).
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Re: Shackle Thickness vs. Pick Resistance in Europe...?

Postby zeepia » 5 Dec 2012 14:57

I tested 3 pieces of 3020 and 3030, they weight 147g-150g each.
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Re: Shackle Thickness vs. Pick Resistance in Europe...?

Postby zeepia » 5 Dec 2012 15:04

ARF-GEF, argh. You just made your last post at the same time so I must add that your latter link for Lukkokauppa says they ship only to Finland.
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Re: Shackle Thickness vs. Pick Resistance in Europe...?

Postby ARF-GEF » 5 Dec 2012 15:15

You said they are light but 150 g surprised me nonetheless. That's really lightweight.
I did have that feeling. But it makes me sad to have it confirmed:(.
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