List of security pins in locks.

[femurat]

The process you are referring to is called 'reverse picking'. Recently learned the term myself. (Thanks, Femurat)

You're very welcome

[eodjeff]

Gordon,
It helps that I am in the Bomb Squad and thinking outside the box is kinda part of the gig. Thank you for the complment. Is there any downfalls or stopages that a security drive pins may cause using reverse picking minus have to play magic man with tension? I understand the a security bottom pin would act like a drive pin but in reverse

[Squelchtone]

Gordon,
It helps that I am in the Bomb Squad and thinking outside the box is kinda part of the gig. Thank you for the complment. Is there any downfalls or stopages that a security drive pins may cause using reverse picking minus have to play magic man with tension? I understand the a security bottom pin would act like a drive pin but in reverse

KISS. keep it simple.. dont over think this. most locks don't have key pin security drivers unless you're looking at American Padlock, some brinks padlock, and ASSA/Ruko brand padlocks and cylinders.

Reverse picking always works better for me for an American 5200 than picking it normally. Also helps to have a fat tension wrench because the bottom of the keyway is much wider than most locks and a normal wrench will have a tendency to cam out.

All we're doing is stacking the odds in our favor by getting as many nasty spools and serrations out of our way, so instead of dealing with a driver pin and a key pin, now we're only dealing with key pins, and overcoming the odd sensation that in order to pick this lock you have to slowly reduce tension and let the springs in the bible set the pins to shear line.

Keep practicing,
Squelchtone

[Ambro]

I just wanted to thank all of you for this information, I learned a whole lot from this thread.

[*Dexter*]

This thread is great! It is so useful to see the various pin styles and configurations. Thanks, all.
Does anyone sell or trade security pins?
Do I have to harvest them from actual locks?
I would love an assortment for re-keying my practice lock.

[smithjaggy]

really nice pic!
thanks for the sharing information

[vinnie]

Active from SKS, 6-pin with telescoping & weird security pins.

if you push up on of those pins, do you feel feedback on the tension in 2 different positions?

[Falc0n]

Active from SKS, 6-pin with telescoping & weird security pins.

Those pins are freaking sweet!
I will have to find a lock that contains pins like that some day..

[lockstar5000]

Maybe that lock is made by American Lock for Ace Hardware, thus the similarities??

[zeepia]

Biltema oval cylinder, solid pin is the last one.

[Wizer]

if you push up on of those pins, do you feel feedback on the tension in 2 different positions?

Its been a while since I last picked that. But as I recall, it dropped to a false set just like spools do. To set it you just dont need to let the plug counter-rotate. Simply keep pushing it after the false set.
The telescopes didnt make the lock very hard to pick, maybe its more of an anti-bump feature.

[Rickthepick]

Excellent thread!

I have never come across the serrated spool hybrids!

[Extremepeta]

Gordon,
It helps that I am in the Bomb Squad and thinking outside the box is kinda part of the gig. Thank you for the complment. Is there any downfalls or stopages that a security drive pins may cause using reverse picking minus have to play magic man with tension? I understand the a security bottom pin would act like a drive pin but in reverse

I have found reverse picking locks with serrated key pins in particular to be problematic. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that's the purpose for having serrations on the key pin.

[Extremepeta]

Guts of a Master M930 Magnum Series padlock:


All standard/normal driver and key pins.


It also comes with a small piece of rubber on the bottom for weather protection but I removed it for ease of picking a while ago and can't find it.

[Extremepeta]

Schlage single cylinder deadbolt.


4 spool driver pins in positions 1-4; 1 normal/standard driver pin in position 5; 5 standard/normal key pins.