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An old lock

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An old lock

Postby bookworm14 » 1 Feb 2013 16:08

I have a padlock that I found in my Dad's toolbox. I think it probably belonged to my grandfather. The lock is open but there is no key. I'd like to get a key for it but the locksmith wants $20 to make a key. I'd like to know more about this lock. The only identification is a large "G" on one side. On the edge where the pins are there are 4 small spots, a space and then 1 large spot at the top of the edge. The body of the lock is 3.5 cm high, 3.8 cm wide, and 1.3 cm thick. Any idea who the manufacturer is, or the age, or how to make a key or get the core out would be appreciated. I know 0 about locks.
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Re: An old lock

Postby MrAnybody » 1 Feb 2013 16:10

Welcome to the forum.

If you could post of photo of the lock, it would be very helpful to id it. And a photo of the keyway.
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Re: An old lock

Postby Altashot » 1 Feb 2013 20:51

I can't see the first picture???
In the second pictures, the dot are: on the left, 4 pin chambers where the pins and springs are inserted then capped. On the right, it is where the latch(es) and spring are inserted and capped. It doesn't help much. Many padlocks are assembled this way.
In the third picture, the shape is not unique, I have seen different branded padlocks with this shape. The keyway is not unique either. It a pin tumbler lock and it's not that old. You can still find them new around here.

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Re: An old lock

Postby bookworm14 » 1 Feb 2013 23:43

My Dad had this lock for at least 50 years, maybe more. I need to know how to make a key for it and/or how to get the core out, if that's what is needed to make a key. Sorry about the first picture. I don't know why that one is not showing. I'll repost it tomorrow.
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Re: An old lock

Postby LockDocWa » 2 Feb 2013 0:45

There must be more than one locksmith in your area.
Try another................What are you willing to pay?
If you remove the cylinder on that padlock, it will NEVER be the same.
You need to READ / Impression a key for that lock.
Do you have the skills?
Do you have the patients to learn?
$10.00 to $20.00 is a fair price to pay for two keys from a locksmith.
Is that padlock worth $10.00 to $20.00 to you?
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Re: An old lock

Postby Altashot » 2 Feb 2013 13:15

"My Dad had this lock for at least 50 years, maybe more."
Sorry, maybe I should have explained that considering that padlocks have been made for 100's of years, yours isn't that old.
I meant that what you have, is not an antique but a modern padlock.

I would also suggest impressioning as the favored method here. these padlocks were never made to be taken apart. Sure it is possible but you would have to remove the 4 caps to access the pins, make the key or rekey it then re-install the caps, file or sand smooth which would expose new brass ruining the nice patina. If I were you, I wouldn't disassemble it

At the shop, I would charge at least $25.00 + keys to impression it. At $20.00, you are getting a good deal.

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Re: An old lock

Postby bookworm14 » 2 Feb 2013 13:48

How is that done----making the key? Impressioning you call it?

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Re: An old lock

Postby Altashot » 2 Feb 2013 14:04

Check this out! Well worth the read.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1396

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Re: An old lock

Postby bookworm14 » 2 Feb 2013 14:53

http://www.flickr.com/photos/92838044@N02/

Here's another attempt to show the exterior of the lock.
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Re: An old lock

Postby cledry » 3 Feb 2013 13:23

$20 is more than a fair rate for this sort of work. It isn't that easy to make a key for this lock, at least not without some skills, and skills cost money.
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