Anyone has en Ezcurra?

[fgarci03]

Hello.

I'm about to get an Ezcurra DS10 for my lock collection.
Since it has pins both on the top and bottom, this one I won't be disassembling so soon because I have no idea how to assembly it back

So I'd like to know if anyone has done it before.
I know it has 5 pins on top and other 5 on the bottom. Which ones are security pins, and what kind of pins they are?

I also know it has some security feature on one of the sides but I can't figure out what it is exactly...
Here's a diagram (in spanish): http://podea.pt/index_htm_files/cerradurascilindro.pdf%20EZCURRA.pdf
The DS-10 is on page 6!

Thank you

[ARF-GEF]

I haven't even heard about ezcura before? Is it a spanish/protugese company?
It's interesting because on page 7 there is an interesting 3ks analogous swiss profile cylinder.

As far as I can see from the pics, the side thingy is a passive. (Passive because there is only the ball and one "key" pin. An active would need two pins right? )
If it is passive all you need to do is let it protrude into the keyway. Anyway that's a ball which has to go into the hole on the side of the key, as an added profile control.

[fgarci03]

It's a Spanish company. I think they are pretty good, but I've never picked or disassembled one to see the quality of it.

I decided to get that specific model because it's the lock my girlfriend has on her door (and yes, I do have the key for it. not trying to practice for a real entry ) and it got me curious to see how far does it go in security.
The looks of it is good and the lock works smoothly, it has a bit narrowed profile (wich may difficult a bit picking), without any weird wards though.

Here's a pick of the keyway:


Here's a key (not for the lock in use of course, I got it from a post a couple of years ago):
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/pM ... directlink
It may not look, but the key is thinner than a regular dimple (not much though), hence the narrower profile.

If it is passive all you need to do is let it protrude into the keyway.

So it doesn't matter in picking? Just for the use of a key?
I have only to pick the 10 pins then right?

The key does have a protruberance on the sides. So, no side pins, just a ball that needs to "stay put". And that is what we call a passive. Is this correct?



Always learning

[GWiens2001]

With most passive systems, be they pins, balls, or sidebars, you just ignore them, if you accidentally push it in, it is ok as long as you do not continue to push them in when the plug turns.

Note: most sidebars are not passive, but there are a few that are. The EVVA DPS is an example of a passive sidebar.

Gordon

[fgarci03]

So, I got the lock today!

Could help myself to gut it!
So here's the parts:
The lock:



Then key pins (bottom on the left, upper on the right):

Anti-drill pin:

Driver pins (left bottom, right upper):

The keyway with the springs still in - and the side ball hole:



The "ball thingy"


So after I disassembled it, it seems to be very good. This is a used lock and by the looks of it is has been in the weather for a long time. It's also dirty but still works smoothly. And the parts don't show signs of wear. So I think it's aproved! What do you think?

Now gotta learn how to pick it

[ARF-GEF]

Thank for the pics!:)
The lock itself looks decent, the small upper key pins remind me of BKS Janus. But it's hard to judge from afar:) try picking it and check out the level of drill protection or breaking protection. Most criminals won't bother picking anyway.
So once again thanks for thepics, it's always nice to see foreign lokc which you didn't knew before:)

[fgarci03]

check out the level of drill protection or breaking protection.

What do you mean? I can't do that

The breaking I think it depends on how the lock is built in. If it's in line with the door it's protected. If not, it's a good idea to have a cover (I don't know how that is called in english, so here's a pic)

This way, it's much more difficult to manage to do that kind of entry.

[ARF-GEF]

I meant you could check with the company:D
Although you can always check the drill protection with a good drill:D

There are also special covers which only leave a small slot open for the key to enter. They offer a high protection against drilling and grabbing&braking the lock. I'm not sure what are they called in English.

[ARF-GEF]

So they are called security fittings. Here's alink to a picture.

http://www.smartweb.eu/imagemagick.php? ... gwMC5qcGc=

Wow that's an ugly link. Anyway the one on the left is the outer side and such a security fitting can vastly increase the defence a lock offers.