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by chris16 » 20 Mar 2013 21:16
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by Altashot » 20 Mar 2013 21:26
Yep! This is a pretty restrictive keyway. I have found that a small diamond pick works best on those. You have to tilt the pick to follow the curvature of the keyway. A regular tension wrench is fine, top or bottom of keyway, whatever works best for you. Sorry that is really the only help I can offer, There is no "magic" or science to it. It's just one of the challenges of picking locks.
Good luck and report on your progress, rain or shine.
M.
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by chris16 » 20 Mar 2013 21:31
Altashot wrote:Yep! This is a pretty restrictive keyway. I have found that a small diamond pick works best on those. You have to tilt the pick to follow the curvature of the keyway. A regular tension wrench is fine, top or bottom of keyway, whatever works best for you. Sorry that is really the only help I can offer, There is no "magic" or science to it. It's just one of the challenges of picking locks.
Good luck and report on your progress, rain or shine.
M.
Yea I have noticed that. Are there spoilers enabled ? Just wondering because it can shorten the thread down. And will do thanks.
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by fgarci03 » 20 Mar 2013 21:35
WOW Watch out for the giant pics! The keyway looks tight. It's difficult to get through those. Have you tried raking? When I can't feel pins setting i rake and then release the tension to see if any of the pins setted. Some padlocks need heavy tension to set any pins, while others don't. So I do that procedure, incrementing a little tension each time untill I find the right amount of tension! Mess a bit with it. Vary the tension untill you feel pins setting, but not so much they bind hard and you cannot lift them...
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by chris16 » 20 Mar 2013 21:37
fgarci03 wrote:WOW Watch out for the giant pics! The keyway looks tight. It's difficult to get through those. Have you tried raking? When I can't feel pins setting i rake and then release the tension to see if any of the pins setted. Some padlocks need heavy tension to set any pins, while others don't. So I do that procedure, incrementing a little tension each time untill I find the right amount of tension! Mess a bit with it. Vary the tension untill you feel pins setting, but not so much they bind hard and you cannot lift them...
Yea i tried raking, it doesn't work very well or maybe I'm not doing it right (; I'll try the half diamond after I'm done with my school work.
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by fgarci03 » 20 Mar 2013 21:40
I'm not saying raking it open. I just find it to be a good way to know the right amount of tension! Keep us posted 
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by chris16 » 20 Mar 2013 21:43
fgarci03 wrote:I'm not saying raking it open. I just find it to be a good way to know the right amount of tension! Keep us posted 
Yea I just got my first set of picks today, so you can imagine all the fun I'm having. I could do this all day and not go to school. (;
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by fgarci03 » 20 Mar 2013 21:47
I could do this all day and not go to school. (;
I'm a bad example because I don't go to college sometimes because I get lost in time with picking Give us pictures of your set! We all love to see lock porn! But post smaller images please 
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by chris16 » 20 Mar 2013 21:59
fgarci03 wrote:I could do this all day and not go to school. (;
I'm a bad example because I don't go to college sometimes because I get lost in time with picking Give us pictures of your set! We all love to see lock porn! But post smaller images please 
Here ya go, Yes you see that correct, 3 hooks. I got 2 reinforced US ones and 1 slimline because I have saw a lot of people saying they really just end up using a hook and their wrench. I figured get 3 in case one breaks. I like the standard tension wrench because the twisted one doesn't have the response ( you don't really know how much tension you're putting on it.) I'm in the process of making a leather case I'll keep you update on that as well. [spoiler= my set.] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/108428223/20130320_195409.jpg[/spoiler]
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by GWiens2001 » 21 Mar 2013 8:03
Chris16,
That looks to be very similar to the Brinks padlocks. It may also have a spool pin or two. They won't keep you from setting pins at all, but they may prevent you from setting them correctly. That is their job. If you can, I would suggest getting either a cheap Kwikset deadbolt (NOT a SmartKey, which can be identified by the small rectangular hole to the left of the keyway) or a cheap Master padlock, one of the old style.
Gordon
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by ARF-GEF » 25 Mar 2013 4:44
I'm seeing keyways like that everywhere here in Europe, so I have some experience with them. My advice is to use a slim pick, Southord makes them really cheap but they are quite good (very slim). Even if you can pick one like this with normal picks slimlines will help you greatly. You mentioned that you have one already, so that's great. Just keep in mind that slimline tools are delicate and it's easy to bend them with too much force. If you see lots of them it might be a good idea to invest in more than one pick,(whether you need a slim pick or not can also depend on the actual keying, some keyings require more manoeuvring than others) but a single hook will also go a long way. As a general advice for more restricted keyways use top of the keyway tension otherwise space can get very scarce. would it be possible take apart and so I can view the cylinder?
As for that, I'm not sure, see for yourself. Try removing screws and stuff like that and see where it leads to. 
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