Mystery lock - old or not?

[lockr]

No offence at all aimed at you lockr, it's a nice lock to have, I just don't agree with it being useful. Or better said I don't agree with promoting fake-old stuff.
If you want old get real old if you want a real padlock get a real one. I can't see the point in getting theatre props for high price.
That's my personal opinion.
(Unless you are, as you lockr, a lock collector who is interested in the lock itself. In that case I do see the point in buying it, I too buy cheap chinese cr*p out of interest.)

Well, I didn't buy this lock - if I saw it for sale, it wouldn't exactly be the type of lock I would buy. However it was a gift, so I'm grateful for the addition to my collection - I was only trying to get people's feedback on the origins of this lock; "real" or "fake" - whatever it's history - it's still functional, and a conversation piece. Although I don't have as impressive as a collection as MacGyver, Gordon or many others here on the forums, I have been collecting locks (mainly padlocks) for nearly ten years now, so this is just another piece for that collection.

It's only a small collection (at last count, around 55 padlocks, a few deadbolts and some pinning kits), but here's a quick pic for anyone interested. Sorry it's not the best photo, i'll have to take some better pics at some point.

[ARF-GEF]

I definitely think it's a nice gift. Even if it were the worst padloc kever it's nice that they htought of you and they remembered your hobby

Thanks ofr the phot, and don't be so modes I think it is a very nice collection indeed!

[ARF-GEF]

You could make thread with some of hte more interesting locks if you had the time.
I can "spy" with my little eyes Sargent KEso key, some protecs abloy classic, some multi lock 7x7, bilocks, master and American padlocks.
I was always very interested in bilocks but they are extremely rare here.

[lockr]

You could make thread with some of hte more interesting locks if you had the time.
I can "spy" with my little eyes Sargent KEso key, some protecs abloy classic, some multi lock 7x7, bilocks, master and American padlocks.
I was always very interested in bilocks but they are extremely rare here.

I just might do as you suggest and create a thread; most lock enthusiasts like nice zoomed-in pics of locks to oogle, and although I only have a few "interesting" ones i'm sure others will enjoy looking at the pics.

Good spotting on the various locks. I only have one Bilock actually, I picked it up when I was visiting Australia in 2008. I discussed it on these forums last year, if you're interested I could dig up the thread; I had to modify one of the keys into a control key since my lock didn't come with one.

L-R front row: Bilock QC (NG core without the moving component, so technically a FG), Master ProSeries 6842 (Schalge SC1 core), ABUS 34/55 with APTC14 (American) cores (x2), Abloy Protec 340, Abloy Protec 330 (x2), Mul-T-Lock 7x7, Abus 83/50, American 5200 (commercial), American 5400, American Series 20 (x2), American 5200 (Military), Master 175
L-R 2nd row: BEST SFIC (x2), Master ProSeries 7041 SFIC, Almont Rekey (5" Shackle), American 1205, Stanley (x2), American 700 (x2), American 1305 (x6)
Back Left: Various combination locks (Master, American, Slaymaker), Old? locks (x2)
Back Right: Abloy 3015-3018, various Slaymaker (x7), Squire, Bingham 6-lever, American 1100 (disassembled), other miscellaneous locks

Nothing spectacular really. Generally I pick up locks very rarely, usually only when I see an interesting lock for a good price in a store, at a garage sale or on ebay. I have a fair number of American locks because they're practical, usually several of these are in use around my house securing stuff.

[fgarci03]

It is indeed an amazing collection!

I'm looking forward to build my own. There are still only a few locks in mine

[ARF-GEF]

Me too.
It's an expensive hobby. Even with trade you do have some locks, you can't trade nothing for locks

[GWiens2001]

Lockr,

Sorry it took so long. Here is my duplicate of your lock...



New.

Gordon

[lockr]

Sorry it took so long. Here is my duplicate of your lock...

New.

Thanks Gordon! I suspected as much, it's nice to have a confirmation of exactly what I have in hand. It'll still look nice in the collection! =)

[GWiens2001]

That's why I still have mine.

Gordon

[lockr]

Just noticed that what appears to another counterfiet lock popped up today on eBay today; naturally the markings have lead the seller to assume it's an old lock.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300881506863

It would be nice to have a thread (like this one, I guess) to help buyers and sellers identify counterfeit locks like these. From the sounds of it, there must be a huge number of these locks out there, most of which are being bought and sold as legitimate old locks.

[phrygianradar]

Well, I guess it's time to cut it open... Just kidding. Unless you want to...

[lockr]

Well, I guess it's time to cut it open... Just kidding. Unless you want to...

Hmm, well I doubt there's much that could be learned from looking inside this thing! Although confirmed not to be old, it's still a hand-crafted and actually a rather nice looking lock... so I think i'll keep it as-is for now, and A testament to the sweatshop labour that went into it's production.

[phrygianradar]

No, lockr, I was really just kidding. It's a good addition to your collection, no sense in mutulating a perfectly good lock/gift. Now if you had two of them, that might be different.

[LockDocWa]

Something unique about the padlock posted on Ebay
It has a square shackle......
Odd.

[lockr]

Something unique about the padlock posted on Ebay
It has a square shackle......
Odd.

Maybe a further cost-cutting measure, or perhaps just the particular design of that lock? Either way, it seems particularly flimsy =)