Is this a serrated pin?

[MyHeartIsPicked]

I'm trying to pick an Abus 65/50, (I've succesfully picked an abus 55/30 if it helps you to know what type of pins I've encountered before). The Abus 65/50 is a five pin lock, according to something I read online it has one serrated and four spool pins.
The pin I have a problem with is easy to move, but it doesn't stay set and when I press down on other pins it becomes unset - does that sound like a serrated pin? And if so how do I set it?

[GWiens2001]

It sounds like you will need to keep going back and forth to get it to set.

If it is a serrated pin, you can test by trying to set it higher the next time you set it. It will take a little less effort to lift the serrated driver to the next serration or to the proper shear point than if it were actually properly set. If you are able to lift it higher and get another set on that driver, and the key pin will move freely, then it is the serrated driver.

Gordon

[Squelchtone]

ABUS uses spools, I do not believe I have ever seen a serrated pin inside an ABUS product. If your one pin is not setting or staying in place, then you have not yet found the binding order for your lock. Also, pressing all the pins down doesn't open the lock, they have to each go down only as far as the key would make them go down.

Keep practicing,
Squelchtone

[ARF-GEF]

Do serrated key pins count?
If yes, abus does have serrated although they are exceedingly rare. I've only seen 1 product in which I have seen serrated key pins more or less regularly:the Abus C50 but only serrated key pin, and as Sqelchie wrote spooled bottom pins.
Here's a photo for your viewing pleasure. Hopefully you can make it out, the first key pin is already serrated . Sorry for the quality, I don't have a camera at me jut a mobile phone.

OK so you do need good eyes and a touch of fantasy but I sewar it's there eve if only the first 2 grooves can be made out.

[mh]

ABUS uses spools, I do not believe I have ever seen a serrated pin inside an ABUS product.

They have serated pins these days as well, see e.g. http://wiki.koksa.org/Abus_C83_%28neue_ ... ng_2010%29

Cheers
mh

[Squelchtone]

ABUS uses spools, I do not believe I have ever seen a serrated pin inside an ABUS product.

They have serated pins these days as well, see e.g. http://wiki.koksa.org/Abus_C83_%28neue_ ... ng_2010%29

Cheers
mh

This blows my mind. I wonder if this is more common in euro cylinders they sell versus the brass padlocks we see often in the USA. I will have to buy a new one and take it apart now.

Learning new things every day!
Squelchtone

[daniel22747]

Sounds more like you are trying to set the pin out side it's binding order. Not a huge problem, you'll just have to set it again later.