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by fgarci03 » 16 May 2013 9:46
Wow phrygianradar! That medeco looks awesome!
Regular pins or rotational? Nice padlock dude!
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by fgarci03 » 16 May 2013 9:50
Today I SPP'd for the first time my Oval Cylinder (ASSA I believe).  Pinned this way: viewtopic.php?p=413918#p413918Now gotta get consisten at it 
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by phrygianradar » 16 May 2013 10:16
fgarci03 wrote:Wow phrygianradar! That medeco looks awesome!
Regular pins or rotational? Nice padlock dude!
Thank you, I really like this padlock; it's a rock! I think the pins are rotational because you have to turn them and raise them to get the sidebar to slide in. This is the first Medeco I have picked, but have another on the way. 
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by Squelchtone » 16 May 2013 10:45
fgarci03 wrote:Wow phrygianradar! That medeco looks awesome!
Regular pins or rotational? Nice padlock dude!
99% of Medeco pins are rotational. except the BiLevel low budget line used for key control, but not really for any picking or drilling protection. (used on interior doors such as janitor closets)
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by fgarci03 » 16 May 2013 10:47
That makes it even more awesome! I'm waiting for my Medeco to make my first picking attempt at rotational pins!
Congrats Nathan!
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by phrygianradar » 16 May 2013 11:03
fgarci03 wrote:That makes it even more awesome! I'm waiting for my Medeco to make my first picking attempt at rotational pins!
Congrats Nathan!
Thanks, but am still foiled by the Gemini! I just read about an interesting way to pick them that I have not tried yet, so who knows. I am also getting an 8 pin Lori Kaba, so maybe I can work my way up instead of going for the kill right off! The only reason I got that Gemini (besides the fact that it is an awesome piece of machinery) is because the guy who sold it to me was only asking $20 for it, and it has two working keys and the key tab for duplicating. Couldn't pass up that deal.
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by phrygianradar » 16 May 2013 11:06
I forgot to mention; nice work on getting that Oval lock open! The pinning looks like a nighmare, well done! Another one bites the dust... 
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by fgarci03 » 16 May 2013 11:24
phrygianradar wrote:the guy who sold it to me was only asking $20 for it
What a great deal! Yep, the Gemini is harder than the Medeco (even by it having rotational pins). But I believe Medeco is considered high-security, so it's a big, BIG jump! nice work on getting that Oval lock open! The pinning looks like a nighmare, well done! Another one bites the dust...
Thanks, but I still need to do it consistently, and I will re-arrange the pining to learn even more with it!
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by l0ckcr4ck3r » 17 May 2013 1:19
I picked up one of these ACE locks last week, its basically a copy of an American. The first time i opened it there was a lot of crunching going on and a tougher pick than i was expecting it to be. Anyways my Peterson DCAP lifter turned up today.... Its almost like cheating!!! smoothly moves from pin to pin and grabs them! I opened it up afterwards and can now understand why it was a tricky little SOB!!  
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by fgarci03 » 17 May 2013 4:46
l0ckcr4ck3r wrote:I picked up one of these ACE locks last week, its basically a copy of an American. The first time i opened it there was a lot of crunching going on and a tougher pick than i was expecting it to be. Anyways my Peterson DCAP lifter turned up today.... Its almost like cheating!!! smoothly moves from pin to pin and grabs them! I opened it up afterwards and can now understand why it was a tricky little SOB!!  
Serrated pins, congratulations dude! Those can be a PITA! 
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by l0ckcr4ck3r » 17 May 2013 12:28
fgarci03 wrote:Serrated pins, congratulations dude! Those can be a PITA! 
Thanks for the encouragement... even the spools had serrations on them 
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by phrygianradar » 17 May 2013 13:24
Yes, nice picking l0ckcr4ck3r! Those pins are tough. Is it just the lighting on the picture, or are the pins kind of dirty? The lock looks brand new on the outside, but the pins look like they have been around for a while. I have had the same thing happen when I bought an American Padlock (Aluminum body); it looked brand new on the outside, but when I took it apart, it was sort of dirty on the inside and the pins looked, not used, but not new? Perhaps it's because they are brass and get naturally tarnished?
In any case, good job on a tough lock!
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by Hachronn » 17 May 2013 17:42
40mm Master 141D padlock 40mm Magnum padlock Ridiculously trivial five pin Kwickset deadbolt Five pin Defiant Deadbolt - Feels like 2 spools, but I've been told there should only be 1 (Haven't taken it apart yet).
I'm still a newbie (About two weeks picking). I'm focused on SPP. I'm pretty comfortable picking the deadbolts CW, but I'm still having to work a bit at picking the Defiant CCW.
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by fgarci03 » 17 May 2013 18:13
phrygianradar wrote:Yes, nice picking l0ckcr4ck3r! Those pins are tough. Is it just the lighting on the picture, or are the pins kind of dirty? The lock looks brand new on the outside, but the pins look like they have been around for a while. I have had the same thing happen when I bought an American Padlock (Aluminum body); it looked brand new on the outside, but when I took it apart, it was sort of dirty on the inside and the pins looked, not used, but not new? Perhaps it's because they are brass and get naturally tarnished?
In any case, good job on a tough lock!
I believe that dark stuff is dirt. It's not hard for it to get in there even with little use. It actually helps picking, as the serration clicks will be a little fainter, and you'll detect the crisp click more easily, both in your hands and ears. This doesn't mean that click is undistinguishable when the pins a in mint cndition, they are quite different anyway, but with the "dirt" it gets just a little bit easier! And congrats Hachronn, when I had just two weeks of picking I couldn't pick anything worth picking 
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