unusual halfmoon dimple lock

[zeepia]

Good job!

Bogota is the way to go with almost every lock!

[scriptguru]

You're wizard, femurat!

Could you please upload a video of picking to YouTube?
I believe, it would be interesting for everyone here to see how exactly you are doing it.

Do you think "bogota" would work for any key code, or just the one you own?

[femurat]

Thanks for the compliments

I think a very small bogota will work with every bittings. My key has the third pin long and the last two very short, almost zero, so it's not a flat or strange key.

I may try to make a video, but I don't know if I can do it. I only have my phone to record it and have no idea on how to support it while picking. I'll try and let you know if I manage to do it.

Cheers

[zeepia]

Femurat, is your lock equipped with spools only or is mine a newer version? It doesn´t have sidebar though. Had to buy this shiny padlock for 10€, has alarm function too. Only takes 6 button batteries... The trigger is resting towards shackle, if cut then it goes off. Don´t know if it has a vibrating alarm too, instructions are non-existent and I ain´t gonna test it!

Having hard time to tension it properly because it has only spools and it makes a massive false set even without any picking. Also key pins are spools, haven´t had any luck with this one so far... Bitting has also hi-lo combos and my dimple picks don´t reach the bottom. Funny little bugger!

[zeepia]

Today I made a well working tensioner for these kind of locks:



It´s made of steel tube and it provides tension in both directions. But still having trouble with this lock, mainly due to this false set I mentioned:




This tensioner was made for using bogota but it seems that it needs to be SPP´d so I have to expand the slot in the center of the tensioner...

[phrygianradar]

Wow, Zeepia, that is a really creative tensioner! Very inventive, I am impressed.
BTW, after reading this thread, I had to go out and order one of these from dealextream. It was only $17.00 and will be here in a few weeks. I am excited to get it but hope I forget about it so that I am surprised when it arives... it's coming from Hong Kong and will take 20 days to get here

[zeepia]

Thanks, I hope yours is full of spools

[femurat]

Hey zeepia,

congrats for that tension wrench, great ingenuity!

I had to dig through my padlocks to look for the ones I have with this keyway, I found three.



The first one is a pin tumbler without a sidebar. This is an old picture but I SPPed it and I guess it has no spools, just standard pins.

The second one, the one that started this thread, was a bit more difficult than the baogu padlock up here, but it's a pin tumbler without a sidebar and may have one or two security pins or not. I SPPed it a few times and am still not sure about it.

The third one is the padlock with siren I got from dx. It has a sidebar and some, if not all, spools. After I picked it I can no longer move the pins, so it definitely has a sidebar. Looking in the keyway I can see a spool like the one you have in your padlock.

To apply tension I inserted a bicycle spoke tension wrench tip on one side and pulled with thumb and index finger. It's not that comfortable but can be done.

I hope you had fun picking yours.

Cheers

[phrygianradar]

I got my lock from Hong Kong today! Really cool lock, everyone liked it when I demonstrated the alarm... I got it picked on my lunch break. I made a tension wrench out of a paper clip type of thing and it actually worked pretty darn well. Not as cool as Zeepia's , but it did the trick! It seems to have at least a few spools in it and has a sidebar. Here are some pics for anyone interested:

http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/Natha ... sort=3&o=0

http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/Natha ... sort=3&o=1

http://s1358.photobucket.com/user/Natha ... sort=3&o=2

I really like this lock because of its unique keyway. I'm glad I found this thread and to all the people who added to it. Thanks all!

[Quickpicknpay]

I read this thread and was interested in this Alarm Padlock so I ordered one off ebay delivered for $10.69 Bargain!
I love the tension tool that Zeepia made, I was going to sacrafice one of my 3 keys to make one with but thought I'd try something else first.
I tried for a few minutes to pick with a tension wrench that did not fit that well so I ended up bending one up with some spring steel.
It was picking to about a 20 degree angle and going no further until a slight release of tension and another feel of the pins clicked it open. First time took about 3 minutes.
I think the following pics were too big to post ther so heres the links.
First one is the picked lock and the tools I used, the second is what's inside the base of the lock.
http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t55 ... 2472d9.jpg
http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t55 ... 132cd9.jpg
It must have spool pins judging by the action and it looks like it may have a sidebar. I think I'll pull the cylinder apart in the next few days and see what makes it tick. I'll post some pics when I do.
I took the base off the lock to see if the battery could be replaced. 6 button batteries inside would probably cost more than the padlock was to buy. Also It would be no good around moisture as there is no real waterproofing seals, but still a cool lock.

[Quickpicknpay]

Well I couldn't wait, typical me.
Heres three more pics of the inside.
Again a touch too big to post on this page.

First the Barrel removed
http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t55 ... c0a153.jpg

Then two more of the exploded View
http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t55 ... 1a252f.jpg
http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t55 ... 7be94d.jpg

It shows there are individual side pins that act like a sidebar.
Line the bottom pins up and that allows the side pins go into the slots in the bottom pins to then turn the key.

I guess that when the keyway is picked to 20 degrees or so that most of the side pins were in the correct position with only one or two to go.

[femurat]

Congrats for picking this padlock phrygianradar and Quickpicknpay. It's nice to see other people enjoy playing with the same lock

Quickpicknpay, I liked the inside pictures so much I downloaded them! I hope you can reassemble the padlock...
So that's why it was possible to pick it, it has individual side pins instead of a solid sidebar. I still miss that one in my collection, if it exist

Cheers

[Quickpicknpay]

Help yourself to the pics.
The padlock is reassembled and working as new. I even reused the same retainer pins.
Still a little bit of trouble to pick but good fun.
At least we all know what we are dealing with now.

[Legion303]

Someone brought a couple of San Li padlocks with this operation and keyway to our last locksport meeting, and I've been looking for information on them ever since. Score!

-steve

[phrygianradar]

Nice pictures Quickpicknpay, weird to see that on the same day I got mine and picked it! I got that same rotation thing you were talking about, and also thought they were spools. Really cool to see the inside, now I don't need to rip mine apart, thanks! It is a unique twist on a sidebar idea. Fun to pick.