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most used keyways

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most used keyways

Postby LocksmithArmy » 27 May 2013 20:56

ok what are the top 5 residential keyways you find yourself working with... and what are the top 5 commercial keyways...

for residential i would assume KW1, SC1, Y1 and what are 2 more...
for commercial its probably some of the Best keyways im sure...

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Re: most used keyways

Postby Squelchtone » 27 May 2013 21:08

Depends on where you live. Things are different even town by town.

you writing a book or making bump keys? =)

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Re: most used keyways

Postby LocksmithArmy » 27 May 2013 21:15

neither... im designing somthing... else

but I would like to know where you are if you intend to give a list of your top 5... because that is important (euros vs aussies vs americans)

and lever locks are irrelivant... only pin tumblers.
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Re: most used keyways

Postby Altashot » 27 May 2013 22:25

Around my area, the most common is Weiser, followed by Schlage, Kwikset, Yale and Amerock.

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Re: most used keyways

Postby cledry » 27 May 2013 23:50

In Florida

Residential Schlage C, Kwikset KW1, Kwikset KW10, Weiser WR3 or WR5 (same) there really isn't much else in common use.

Commercial, Schage C, Yale Y1, Sargent LA, Russwin D1, Russwin L4, Corbin Z160
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Re: most used keyways

Postby fgarci03 » 28 May 2013 2:26

Europe, Y1 is pretty common. Other keyways have unknown codes to me :?
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Re: most used keyways

Postby cledry » 28 May 2013 6:27

fgarci03 wrote:Europe, Y1 is pretty common. Other keyways have unknown codes to me :?


They would be.
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Re: most used keyways

Postby ARF-GEF » 28 May 2013 7:06

Y1 (I think official name is E1R) all the way here too. It has a few smaller variations (in key thickness) but Silca sells a universal key which fits an astonishing amount of Y1 clones.
The rest 30% which his not is divided up between many, but the majority of those are the products of a local lock-maker.
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Re: most used keyways

Postby Squelchtone » 28 May 2013 7:21

Unless LocksmithArmy says otherwise, my bet is that him being an American, he's looking for info for locks in the United States for an app he's making or whatever project this is for his locksmith business.

LSA: can you please specify which regions of this planet you want asnwers for? It would be silly if people are chiming in from places like China and Poland if you are only looking for USA household and commercial lock keyways.

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Re: most used keyways

Postby LocksmithArmy » 28 May 2013 12:03

nono world wide is great... especially places i have never herd from korea, usbekistan and wherever...

thanks guys your all being very helpful
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Re: most used keyways

Postby Squelchtone » 28 May 2013 12:12

LocksmithArmy wrote:nono world wide is great... especially places i have never herd from korea, usbekistan and wherever...

thanks guys your all being very helpful


Can you give more hints/details as to your project or what you want to know about the keyways? The more we know the better the answers we can provide.

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Re: most used keyways

Postby LocksmithArmy » 28 May 2013 16:16

the project is keyway specific (like bump keys) i just need to know what keyways are common regionally (for products to be sold worldwide) so I know which ones to target... I am trying to get some more tools on the market... I cant go into it much yet. im sure it will be widely announced when things are closer to being released.
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Re: most used keyways

Postby Wizer » 29 May 2013 7:08

ARF-GEF wrote:Y1 (I think official name is E1R) all the way here too. It has a few smaller variations (in key thickness) but Silca sells a universal key which fits an astonishing amount of Y1 clones.
The rest 30% which his not is divided up between many, but the majority of those are the products of a local lock-maker.


The Silca universal blank is UL050, JMAs equal is U-5D. As mentioned it fits in YA1 (Yale) keyways and a whole lot more; CES,Abus,Assa/Ruko, Zone, Squire...
At least JMA makes Shorter and longer version of that too. U-4D, U-5D & U-6D. It is a very thin blank ment to fit in many similiar keyways. A lock with good tolerances like Assa might not accept the blank because it is too loose in the keyway and it may wiggle.
We don´t have many pintumblers on doors here, but the two most common are:
AS-HH7(JMA)/ASS52R(Silca). For Assa 700 series oval cylinders and some copies of it. Of course there are many profiles for that lock, but this is most common here.
TV-3D(JMA)/TR4(silca). For Trio-Ving and Dorma.
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Re: most used keyways

Postby alockguru » 10 Jun 2013 12:19

My area is almost all SC1 or KW1 unless its old. Then its Corbin/Russwin. Rarely ever see a Yale anymore and even more rare is lockwood.
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Re: most used keyways

Postby dll932 » 17 Jun 2013 10:46

This is (hopefully) a recent list of the 50 most common blanks in the US:

A1176ST-KW10, 1069L-NA14, 1145-SC1, 1176-KW1, L1054B-IN8, 1145A-SC4, 1003M-CO106, 01122-Y11, 1043J-IL11, 1069N-RO3, 1522-EZ1, 1617-FIC1, 01122R-Y13, 999-Y1, 998GA-Y78, R1003M-BO1, 1045-AM3, 1041T-CG16, A1054WD-FA3, 101AM-AP1, A1114A-BE2, N1054WB-WR5, A1145E-SC9, 1069LB-NA12, 1510-BW2, 997E-Y52, VR91AR-VR7, 999A-Y2, S22, 104AM-AP4, 102AM-AP2, A1145L-SC20, 103AM-AP3, 997X-Y6,A1176KT-KW11, D1054K-DE6, 1179-AR1, A1001EH-CO88, 1054WB-WR3, 1179A-AR4, 1043B-IL9, S1000V-CO68, 1000V-CO26, A1176-KW5, A1011D1-RU46, 1069G-RO7,1041Y-CG17, 1180S-XL7, 1597-HAW1, 1041G-CG1.

Foley-Belsaw will sell you an assortment like this.
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