Is this the right Tubular Lock Pick?

[franc]

Hello,

about 20 years ago, a friend gave me a lock pick tool set with a TLP-LRB in it. I played a bit with the electrical picker but forgot about it then.
But last week I remembered that there was a Tubular Lock Pick inside the toolkit and I played with this.
I have a bike locker with a tubular lock but now I guess that I have not the rigt tool, because the pick doesn't fit into the locker.

I have the TLP-LRB: http://www.hpcworld.com/mobile/px/tubpicks/7pin/index.html but my key has maybe an inverse system.
This is my key:
http://abload.de/img/clipboard-hp4672bduke.jpg
This is my locker:
http://abload.de/img/clipboard-gq5840ctjp6.jpg
and there is a little "nose" outside the tube of the key (I made a red circle), but the TLP-LRB has a little "roll pin" inside the tube:
http://abload.de/img/clipboard-py5668h7ojh.jpg
http://abload.de/img/clipboard-hp56689uua8.jpg

My question now: does this tubular locker needs a Standard 7-Pin Tubular Pick (TLP-7SB):
http://www.hpcworld.com/mobile/px/tubpi ... index.html
to open it or is there no tubular pick available for such lockers?

Kind regards
franc

EDIT: here the instruction page of my TLP-LRB:
http://7fw.de/tmp/tlp-lrb_instructions-1.jpg
http://7fw.de/tmp/tlp-lrb_instructions-2.jpg

[keymaster1053]

You are correct in your assumption. you have the wrong tool. the description of your tool is 7-pin OFFSET. your lock is a standard 7 pin. the other tool you mentioned IS in fact the one you would need. Hope this helps.
Jim.

[franc]

Thank you very much, indeedly this helps

franc

[smokingman]

That photo shows the newer kind of 7 pin center without the cut in the center for the roll pin in the center of the pick to fit into.
The key probably does not have the "nub" on the inside, just the outside.
If this is the case, the roll pin would have to be removed from the pick tool , otherwise the tool will not seat into the lock .
Someone correct me if I am wrong.

[franc]

... the roll pin would have to be removed from the pick tool , otherwise the tool will not seat into the lock ...

Yes, the roll pin blocks the tube to enter the lock. But the tubular pick has no "nub" outside to turn the lock, so if I removed the roll pin, I still couldn't use the pick tool because I wouldn't be able to turn the lock, after successfully picked, I think.
Please correct me, if I am wrong.

[smokingman]

As the newer locks such as the one pictured have no such piece, it is not really needed for it to operate.
I have removed the one on my tool and it still turns the lock mechanism by using the pins instead.

[franc]

As the newer locks such as the one pictured have no such piece, it is not really needed for it to operate.
I have removed the one on my tool and it still turns the lock mechanism by using the pins instead.

This is what I hoped, so it is true?
Then I can use the TLP-LRB (offset) Tool to use it for the standard lockers?
I will remove the roll pin then!

Great thing, thank you!

[franc]

No, it doesn't work like that.
I removed the roll pin and the tubular pick is now able to enter the lock.
But I cannot turn the lock just with the feelers. I need this "nub" to turn, I guess.
No way to open it, even when I set and fix the feelers on the postions they should be set, copying the setting from the original key.
It doesn't turn the lock with the feelers

[smokingman]

No, it doesn't work like that.
I removed the roll pin and the tubular pick is now able to enter the lock.
But I cannot turn the lock just with the feelers. I need this "nub" to turn, I guess.
No way to open it, even when I set and fix the feelers on the postions they should be set, copying the setting from the original key.
It doesn't turn the lock with the feelers

Did you actually "pick" the lock or just put the tool in?
You must genly slide the tool in and out obout 1/16 of an inch just a few
times to set the pins while gently applying torque.

[franc]

Even when the pins are set (I have the key!) I cannot turn the lock. The feelers won't hold the tube.

[smokingman]

Even when the pins are set (I have the key!) I cannot turn the lock. The feelers won't hold the tube.

Ok, put the pin back in I guess, sorry just trying to help.
Does the key have that piece inside the barrel of the key?

[franc]

...Does the key have that piece inside the barrel of the key?

No, outside, like it is visible (marked with a red circle) on my image in the first post.

[smokingman]

...Does the key have that piece inside the barrel of the key?

No, outside, like it is visible (marked with a red circle) on my image in the first post.

Then that tool will not work with the pin in and must not work eith it out then sorry
thought it was worth a try.
My tool works on all of them.
Well good luck and try the other tools for this type of lock.

[franc]

... try the other tools for this type of lock.

Would try, if they weren't this expensive. About 150$ for the standard tubular pick.

[mechanical_nightmare]

Would try, if they weren't this expensive. About 150$ for the standard tubular pick.

There is a cheaper version sold by Southord. You can get the 7-pin + 8-pin tool, plus a key gauge for about the same price. ($150) I don't know if it differs significantly in quality, but from my understanding the Southord version is an effective and robust tool as well. I have purchased other equipment from them before and they were of good quality.