Does anyone have any recommendations for handcuffs and where to buy them? I've done a little bit of lock picking and I'm interested in how to escape cuffs. I was looking at the S&W 100s but don't know where to buy them. I thought about purchasing them on amazon but some of the reviews said they weren't "real" S&W 100s.
tl;dr: Does anyone have any recommendations for a novice picker on a solid pair of handcuffs to learn on?
himalayan wrote:Does anyone have any recommendations for handcuffs and where to buy them? I've done a little bit of lock picking and I'm interested in how to escape cuffs. I was looking at the S&W 100s but don't know where to buy them. I thought about purchasing them on amazon but some of the reviews said they weren't "real" S&W 100s.
tl;dr: Does anyone have any recommendations for a novice picker on a solid pair of handcuffs to learn on?
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Please fill out your profile with your location. It's not easy to suggest suppliers without knowing if you're in US, Europe or Australia for example.
With that said, I highly recommend http://cuffsland.com/. They not only give you a good overview of the reputable brands around the world, but they are well respected retailers. They are Europe based, but they ship worldwide. If you are in Europe, then I'd say they are THE place to go.
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S&W cuffs are a good choice if you just want a quality pair of handcuffs to practice on. If someone wants a good pair of handcuffs to actually USE, I'd recommend Peerless instead. They are usually slightly higher in price but have a smoother operating mechanism making it a little easier when cuffing people. At least in the US, it's usually more common to see security guards carrying S&W cuffs and cops carrying Peerless cuffs.
As to where to buy them, I'd just use an internet search engine to find a good place.
I would recommend the handcuffwarehouse in the US: http://www.handcuffwarehouse.com/ Cuffsland is more of a European shop and based in Germany. I can also recommend Nordhandel here in Germany and Europe: http://www.nordhandel.de/ The webpage will soon be available in English and the owner is cool guy!
I actually have to disagree with MBI. Many policemen here in Germany are using S&W (especially the polive here in Hessen) and I myself can not see much of a difference to the S&W models. Both are very well made but the hinged model from S&W is a bit better then the one from Peerless if you ask me. That is because the hinge on the S&W consists out of one welded metal piece and on the Peerless it is two parts making them less static if you know what I mean. I will do videos on the S&W hinged version and the Peerless within the next week.
I am also going to do reviews on most of the other handcuffs that are out there like Ralkem, Yuil and more S&W models like the Mod. 104 Oh and not to forget the Clejuso handcuffs from a German company, also used widely by policemen here. At the End I will do a review on their high security model which is used in prisons here in Germany Mod. 101 that features a pin tumbler core.
My name is Adrian Weber and I am a private Security Adviser with a CFPA certificate in Security and Security Management.
I don't know if either company's cuff manufacturing is still done in this area, but it is nice to live in a place with so much history . I know their offices are still here. Maybe I can get a tour!
Dicey: MBI knows his stuff when it comes to US law enforcement and what gear they use here in the US, so I wouldn't disagree with him too hard.
Dicey: MBI knows his stuff when it comes to US law enforcement and what gear they use here in the US, so I wouldn't disagree with him too hard.
As I said they are both very good quality I just wanted to point out that many law enforcement officer here in Germany use them. It is the standard handcuff in many States here like in Hessen for example but also Peerless and Clejuso is. Clejuso by the way fixed some problems on their handcuffs and they do not have the weaknesses presented by TOOOL any longer. I have a pair both Peerless and S&W here and they are nearly the same and both work in the same smooth way. Appliance is also very good on both, tolerances too. And here in Germany S&W is more expensive than Peerless.
Believe it or not there are also other countries than The United States and these also have Law Enforcement Officers
My name is Adrian Weber and I am a private Security Adviser with a CFPA certificate in Security and Security Management.
dicey wrote: Believe it or not there are also other countries than The United States and these also have Law Enforcement Officers
You really do need to work on your politeness skills man, no wonder people give you a hard time on the internet and you then start threads about manners. Please consider your own tone of voice and little quips and comments while you are writing. Perhaps you are sitting there and think your quote will sound cute or funny or all in good fun, but it is not easy to read tone of voice over the internet and sometimes a comment can make someone sound like a jerk.
MBI specifically said "At least in the US". He wasn't looking to get disagreed with about how much you know of how things are done in Germany, and at the moment, I frankly don't care.
I was just trying to state my opinion and contribute to the topic? Also I did what you told me and used smileys? So what is the problem now?
I stated my opinion saying that I agree while also disagreeing a little bit. I also wanted to mention what policemen carry here. I see no problem there and really do not get it. To me it seems like you have a grudge on me and take everything wrong that I am saying I do not really understand that.
Why didn't you post your opinion in my topic in manners then? I mean it seems you widely disagree with me. In my opinion it is not my fault that people do not properly watch a video nor listen to what the person is saying in it.
I just thought we live in a modern society where everyone can state his opinion without getting judged for it. I did that and I did it in a polite way in the way YOU told me to do it.
Adrian
My name is Adrian Weber and I am a private Security Adviser with a CFPA certificate in Security and Security Management.
I dont have a grudge but when I routinely have to moderate a single user and they become a high maintenance member then it is a little annoying. Having an opinion is fine but using every opportunity to tell others how wrong they are and how much you know is no longer sharing an opinion. Not everyone is looking for a debate or to have an expert correct them all the time. Just as you want your opinion heard and respected here, so do other members. Don't take my attention to your posts to mean I have anything against you, I write stern things to many other members as well, its my job to keep the forum working smoothly.
A nasty note - most cuffs can be shimmed open with a Weiser Shim Pick if the deadlock has not been pushed in. If it has, a hook pick will force that back out, then shim the thing open. I won't say how to do this, but it works.
Trust me, at 2 AM I get the funniest calls about this, and have found some very interesting situations going on. Nothing like being hustled into a bedroom and having to free somebody at that hour. Open the things, get paid and out the door -----
You can guess what is going on. LOLOL .......
This is why I stay in the biz after 45 years, too much fun!
Sinifar
The early bird may get the worm, but it is the second mouse which gets the cheese! The only easy day was yesterday. Celebrating my 50th year in the trade!
Sinifar wrote:A nasty note - most cuffs can be shimmed open with a Weiser Shim Pick if the deadlock has not been pushed in. If it has, a hook pick will force that back out, then shim the thing open. I won't say how to do this, but it works.
Trust me, at 2 AM I get the funniest calls about this, and have found some very interesting situations going on. Nothing like being hustled into a bedroom and having to free somebody at that hour. Open the things, get paid and out the door -----
You can guess what is going on. LOLOL .......
This is why I stay in the biz after 45 years, too much fun!
Sinifar
Darn it! Good thing I'm a lockpicker then!
Go ahead, keep plugging away, picking on me! You will end up on bypass or with rigor mortise. - GWiens2001
Funny story and I would love it to be called for something like that I can imagine that this is fun
Yes, handcuffs are easy to open but I would say that cuffs with good tolerances like the S&W or the Peerless are a bit more difficult to open. At least that is what I experienced. A paper clip is too weak, the normal tool to big to fit in. A hair clip will do but you have to know how to do it. I would say that it is easy if you know what you are doing and if you have done it/trained it before.
My name is Adrian Weber and I am a private Security Adviser with a CFPA certificate in Security and Security Management.
