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Keyed alike Yale PBS night latch query

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Keyed alike Yale PBS night latch query

Postby scottmacblue » 1 Oct 2013 14:36

Can anyone help me. I am after a local locksmith that could take the 2 Yale PBS night latches that I have and change the cylinders so that they are keyed alike. This is for a porch and front door so we just have one key to get through both doors. I have tried loads of local locksmiths but none of them aren't capable or aren't interested but I'm having no luck. I'm in the Twickenham area of London.

Anyone local able to help or suggest anyone?

Thanks.
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Re: Keyed alike Yale PBS night latch query

Postby GWiens2001 » 1 Oct 2013 23:25

Do both locks take the same key blank? If so, it should be very easy to rekey one cylinder.

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Re: Keyed alike Yale PBS night latch query

Postby scottmacblue » 2 Oct 2013 6:08

Hi Gordon,

I'm afraid I've got no idea if they take the same key blanks.They would both be brand new boxed items. It's strange as I would have thought that this was quite a straight forward job. Anyway, if anyone can offer any advice I would be very grateful. Our location is TW12.

Thanks.
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Re: Keyed alike Yale PBS night latch query

Postby spoonzor » 2 Oct 2013 6:18

just put the key from one lock in the other lock, if it fits (even you can't turn the key) you can be pretty sure it's the same keyblank. After that all that needs to be done is change the keypins in one lock to match the key from the other lock. Good locksmiths have a big box of keypins.
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Re: Keyed alike Yale PBS night latch query

Postby scottmacblue » 2 Oct 2013 7:58

I haven't purchased the locks yet as I need to get this keyed alike issue sorted before I buy. I am able to buy the locks at about £50 each but then need to get them altered (keyed alike). I have found a supplier that can supply them to me keyed alike but the total cost is about £250 which seems extreme. That is why I am enquiring about a local locksmith that is capable if doing the job. Most people I have contacted are only interested in selling and fitting and not the more specialised bit.

Still hoping someone may be able to help, thanks.
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Re: Keyed alike Yale PBS night latch query

Postby MBI » 2 Oct 2013 8:37

scottmacblue wrote:I have found a supplier that can supply them to me keyed alike but the total cost is about £250 which seems extreme. That is why I am enquiring about a local locksmith that is capable if doing the job. Most people I have contacted are only interested in selling and fitting and not the more specialised bit.

Wow. Around here if you buy two pin-tumbler locks from a hardware store like Home Depot they'll key them alike for free. If you buy them from a Locksmith it's usually only about ten bucks or so to have them keyed alike, unless we're talking about something high security.

Have you already tried calling all the other local locksmiths for price comparisons? We have a few locksmith members from the UK on the forum here, but I don't recall any specifically from the London area.
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Re: Keyed alike Yale PBS night latch query

Postby Squelchtone » 2 Oct 2013 8:46

Bring the locks to a local lockie, having them come to you will cost a lot of money.

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Re: Keyed alike Yale PBS night latch query

Postby Pickmequick » 2 Oct 2013 15:40

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Re: Keyed alike Yale PBS night latch query

Postby scottmacblue » 2 Oct 2013 16:31

Hi pickmequick,

Thanks for the link, but this company is selling the locks at twice the price you can get them at else where, that's what is driving me crazy, £4 to key alike but £100 a lock instead of £50!

I just want to buy the licks at the best price and then pay a locksmith to do the technical adjustment.

Can anyone do this for me?
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Re: Keyed alike Yale PBS night latch query

Postby Pickmequick » 2 Oct 2013 17:16

The problem with those locks is you have 2 cylinders per lock that need re keying so probably wouldn't work out much cheaper (if any) than biting the bullet and buying the dearer ones.

That was my 1st Google hit so i'm sure someone else will beat that quote for keyed alike anyhow.
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Re: Keyed alike Yale PBS night latch query

Postby mhole » 3 Oct 2013 15:59

The issue with pbs' is that re keying the internal handle requires totally disassembling the lock. It's not rocket science but it's way more involved than most simple re keying tasks.
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Re: Keyed alike Yale PBS night latch query

Postby scottmacblue » 4 Oct 2013 2:37

Hi,

I'm not worried about the handles being keyed alike, it's just the cylinders for the outside locks that I want to be the same so I can use the same key for porch door and front door. Does this make the request simpler?
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Re: Keyed alike Yale PBS night latch query

Postby spoonzor » 4 Oct 2013 5:52

take out the keypins from one lock from the inside and exchange them with the keypins on the other lock on the outside? :)
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Re: Keyed alike Yale PBS night latch query

Postby scottmacblue » 4 Oct 2013 8:12

Hi Spoonzor,

I think there are different number of pins on the inside and outside cylinders on this particular lock. I am no expert (obviously) so please correct me if I'm wrong. I would have thought that it should be something like as simple as that.

Thanks.
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Re: Keyed alike Yale PBS night latch query

Postby spoonzor » 4 Oct 2013 11:04

that would actually surprise me, but i never took that specific lock apart so won't know 100% sure.
The easy way to find out is take the cylinder out of the lock.
Since I didn't google the lock i'm not even sure how hard it is to take it apart, but if you can take it apart, use something the size of the cylinder to push the cylinder out while keeping the driver pins and springs in place, else it's gonna be harder to put it back together.
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