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High security locks

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Re: High security locks

Postby fgarci03 » 6 Dec 2013 6:33

ARF-GEF wrote:
The only think I'm afraid of is my mum when she snaps at me :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Hahaha, FG, me too :D
I'm afraid of your mum when she snaps at me as well :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Hahahahaha :mrgreen:


@comandore: Have you picked a Schlage Everest? It's still not high-security, but a darn good lock to pick!
Go ahead, keep plugging away, picking on me! You will end up on bypass or with rigor mortise.
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Re: High security locks

Postby commadore » 7 Dec 2013 11:31

@comandore: Have you picked a Schlage Everest? It's still not high-security, but a darn good lock to pick![/quote]

I have not. I bought a Schlage deadbolt that was all spools but one and im having some hard times with that one. I keep hearing about the Everest line but I cant seem to find any in stores around me. I also cant find a single American brand padlock yet I see them on lockers at my school.
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Re: High security locks

Postby l0ckcr4ck3r » 7 Dec 2013 12:21

To be honest, save your money by buying locks at retail outlets and retail prices. Keep an eye on eBay, there are countless American locks on there and you will find everest cylinders come up from time to time at a good price…. 12-15 including shipping is about right for an everest. Another good source of American locks and padlocks in general are yard sales or flea markets. The prices are even better when the owner doesn't have the key. I have used the line "Its not worth much more than scrap value without a key…" several times to get a padlock for a couple of bucks.
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Re: High security locks

Postby phrygianradar » 7 Dec 2013 17:09

commadore wrote:@comandore: Have you picked a Schlage Everest? It's still not high-security, but a darn good lock to pick!


I have not. I bought a Schlage deadbolt that was all spools but one and im having some hard times with that one. I keep hearing about the Everest line but I cant seem to find any in stores around me. I also cant find a single American brand padlock yet I see them on lockers at my school.

Hey there, I am not sure where you are located, but if you are in the States, any locksmith should have American padlocks in their shop. After all, they are "The locksmiths lock"… Like everyone already stated, not high security, but very fun and challenging for building you lock picking chops!
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Re: High security locks

Postby commadore » 7 Dec 2013 17:20

Ontario Canada actually, I really don't go into locksmiths shops a lot cause I don't know what they think of hobby pickers but I guess they don't need to know that if im just buying a lock
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Re: High security locks

Postby mechanical_nightmare » 9 Dec 2013 4:35

Personally I will be staying away from high security locks until I attain a sufficient level of mastery with all security pin types in highly paracentric keyways, keyed to difficult codes. I have been buying used Medeco's, Sargent Keso's etc. as collection pieces recently, and maybe someday I will manage to pick them...

About the Schlage Primus; how difficult is it to pick compared to, say, a standard ABUS with spools? Maybe I could get one and give it a try.

I really don't go into locksmiths shops a lot cause I don't know what they think of hobby pickers


You are right. If you go in and talk about picking or other arcane techniques, they will think you are up to no good. It's understandable though.
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Re: High security locks

Postby GWiens2001 » 9 Dec 2013 8:57

mechanical_nightmare wrote:Personally I will be staying away from high security locks until I attain a sufficient level of mastery with all security pin types in highly paracentric keyways, keyed to difficult codes.

About the Schlage Primus; how difficult is it to pick compared to, say, a standard ABUS with spools? Maybe I could get one and give it a try.


A Schlage Primus uses the same operating principles as an ASSA Twin Combi. Here is a thread on the ASSA Twin Combi. Let us know how you think it stacks up against a standard ABUS with spools. :roll:

Hint... It may be a little bit before you successfully pick this lock. :wink:

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Re: High security locks

Postby mechanical_nightmare » 9 Dec 2013 10:43

Hint... It may be a little bit before you successfully pick this lock. :wink:


That's what I thought. :( Gotta keep practicing... I'm happy with what I can do so far though, as humble as it is
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Re: High security locks

Postby huxleypig » 16 Jan 2014 0:27

No kidding Gordon, good luck with the Assa Twin!! :D

I agree with ARF regarding the MLT Interactive. It is just a 7 pin dimple. A well made 7 pin dimple. The MTL Classic, MT5, MT5+...they all offer superior security.

I would love a Shlage Everest, they look like fun to play with. In fact, I don't have any Shlage at all... :cry:

Ebay is always good for occasional bargains. I love rooting around car boot (yard) sales too, there's sometimes pure gold for next to nothing there. I got my Ingersoll 10 lever for £2.50. :D :D
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Re: High security locks

Postby ARF-GEF » 16 Jan 2014 1:53

Wow, nice find on the ingersoll, congrats! :)
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