List of security pins in locks.

[Milock]

The white ones are originals Vachette spool key pins but the brass driver pins are homemade


like that, the trick is to put enough pressure on the pin to let it rotate free and keep it right in the hole (key pin in the rotor to put it at correct height)


Those homemade pins are pretty effective, difficult to do the difference between a traped pin and the shear line


Bye

Milock

[MBI]

Nice work on the homemade spool/serrated pins.

[GWiens2001]

When I saw those brass spool pins, and your comment that they were home made, I wanted to know how. Then scrolled down and saw! Very nice work!

Thank you for sharing.

Gordon

[Milock]

Thanks

For finishing i use flat brass brush and low speed but beware the fingers and beware the flying pin if you don't hold it enough
It was for this training lock (bottom one), actually i made a third serrated.
The key pins are unchanged, the driver pins are now 1,3, 5, serrated and 2, 4 spools
Those locks are are very easy to repin, only two PZ screws for pulling out the rotor (after picking of course)




Bye

Milock

[mikus]

These i made today from a 3mm brass wire by placing it in bench drill and using some files to shape them

[fgarci03]

Nice pins man!
I wonder if you could make a tutorial on them. I would love to make some pins too!

[mikus]

I can make it when i find some free time in workshop where should i post it?

[fgarci03]

"Lockpicks - Manual" subforum.
That would be nice man, thanks!

[Quickpicknpay]

I wonder how much harder it is to actually pick the lock with spool/serrated/mushroom pins inside. We know it does present a challenge at first but ultimately how much will it slow you down in time to pick the lock?

[GWiens2001]

That would depend on your skill level.

Gordon

[femurat]

CISA LOGOLINE .../40

Some time ago I found this padlock laying on the street. Unfortunately many cars drove over it so the lock body is scratched and deformed. It was no longer possible to move the plug.
I made some random cuts with an hacksaw blade to remove the shackle, that I was planning to use in a similar padlock. I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it was broken.
I decided to cut it even further to save the pins and springs. It's always a good thing to have some extra pins
The drivers are 4 spools and 1 serrated. Key pins are standard.

Cheers

[jtucek]

To repeat the information in Extremepeta's post, Schlage still seems to put in 4 spool pins and one regular, with the regular pin being the furthest in. I've taken apart 3 brand new ones, and they all have had exactly the same layout; either I'm lucky or Schlage is lazy.

Regardless, now my locks have the plain pin in position... well, in a different place

[Divinorum]

To repeat the information in Extremepeta's post, Schlage still seems to put in 4 spool pins and one regular, with the regular pin being the furthest in. I've taken apart 3 brand new ones, and they all have had exactly the same layout; either I'm lucky or Schlage is lazy.

Regardless, now my locks have the plain pin in position... well, in a different place

I also took apart a Schlage deadbolt today (at my own house, its 10 years old, corroded and rusty). I found the same exact thing you described. 4 spools and the farthest pin back was a standard pin.

[GWiens2001]

Banham security pins are pretty cool.



That set furthest on the right is at the key bow (accurately number 1), and both the key pin and driver pin are magnetic! Those mushroom pins are serious, too.

Gordon

[jp97103]

Would it be safe to say that if you put spool pins for every driver pin then the lock might have trouble functioning? Is that why when you have spool pins, there is always at least one pin who is shaped normally, or at least serrated (which is more normally shaped then spool)..

I have always heard the normal or serrated pin refered to as the gatekeeper. Keeps the keyway squared up.i have a lock the gatekeeper pin likes to fall every time you set a spool. Then you have to set the gatekeeper again to get the next false set.