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Made in China Locks

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Made in China Locks

Postby HerrMannelig » 22 Dec 2013 12:54

UPS delivered this today (on Sunday!) and I opened it and made this video immediately. It is interesting, but not as a lock.



It is a perfect example of the worst, non-toxic, Made in China product issues.

It has a key which is seemingly designed for a lock with more pins than this lock actually has, and doesn't operate smoothly.

After I made the video, I used a flashlight to look into the keyway, and I saw that the pin I could see was far into the keyway.

It can't be bypassed through the keyway though.
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Re: Made in China Locks

Postby fgarci03 » 22 Dec 2013 21:40

Nice!

I got 2 padlocks with different keys that each key opens both padlocks. Doesn't do it smoothly, but you don't even need to jiggle it. Just rotate...


I may make a video showing that some time. I had a giggle at that!
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Re: Made in China Locks

Postby GWiens2001 » 22 Dec 2013 21:48

Them is some extra kwal-i-tay products. :lol: They are specially made to reduce the number of keys you need to carry. It is a special high-end feature, not a problem in manufacturing. :roll:

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Re: Made in China Locks

Postby YouLuckyFox » 22 Dec 2013 22:38

Thanks for the video, HerrMannelig!


fgarci03 wrote:Nice!

I got 2 padlocks with different keys that each key opens both padlocks. Doesn't do it smoothly, but you don't even need to jiggle it. Just rotate...


I may make a video showing that some time. I had a giggle at that!

Please do, fgarci. On that note, my grandpa and his father-in-law both drove Toyotas that looked very similar. When one of them was visiting the other, my grandpa accidentally got in his father-in-law's car and drove it to work! He told me that when it was all figured out he went to someone and they told him that the particular model they drove had locks that didn't have many options for key configurations... :D. He told me that story after I told him that I was looking into locksmithing.
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Re: Made in China Locks

Postby HerrMannelig » 23 Dec 2013 6:28

fgarci03 wrote:Nice!

I got 2 padlocks with different keys that each key opens both padlocks. Doesn't do it smoothly, but you don't even need to jiggle it. Just rotate...


I may make a video showing that some time. I had a giggle at that!


I first got a lock from China, the Wolf Dog padlock (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fRCmh5GLqQ), and I thought the key looked rather flat, and perhaps all the keys looked like that. So, I ordered two more such locks, and I ordered more Chinese padlocks (Cold Door marking) to see if they were the same. On the Chinese export website I bought it from, you don't get much details.

However, this lock was an Amazon listing, and it didn't have details either, and the picture was just a blank brass padlock, and I had to order it to see what it was. Here was the listing: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002SGGB20 (I bought it for $1.81).

Upon further investigation, it only has two pins. They are different, but if you pick the back pin first, you can easily lift the other pin high enough by accident.
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Re: Made in China Locks

Postby HerrMannelig » 23 Dec 2013 6:29

YouLuckyFox wrote:
fgarci03 wrote:Nice!

I got 2 padlocks with different keys that each key opens both padlocks. Doesn't do it smoothly, but you don't even need to jiggle it. Just rotate...


I may make a video showing that some time. I had a giggle at that!

Please do, fgarci. On that note, my grandpa and his father-in-law both drove Toyotas that looked very similar. When one of them was visiting the other, my grandpa accidentally got in his father-in-law's car and drove it to work! He told me that when it was all figured out he went to someone and they told him that the particular model they drove had locks that didn't have many options for key configurations... :D. He told me that story after I told him that I was looking into locksmithing.


At work, it was found that the keys of one of the mechanics could open the toolbox of another.
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Re: Made in China Locks

Postby fgarci03 » 23 Dec 2013 9:43

GWiens2001 wrote:Them is some extra kwal-i-tay products. :lol: They are specially made to reduce the number of keys you need to carry. It is a special high-end feature, not a problem in manufacturing. :roll:

Oh bummer! And me thinking I had discovered an issue with those locks! :x


YouLuckyFox wrote:Please do, fgarci. On that note, my grandpa and his father-in-law both drove Toyotas that looked very similar. When one of them was visiting the other, my grandpa accidentally got in his father-in-law's car and drove it to work! He told me that when it was all figured out he went to someone and they told him that the particular model they drove had locks that didn't have many options for key configurations... :D. He told me that story after I told him that I was looking into locksmithing.

In Toyotas? Wow! :shock:
I know this on Fords, as they used Tibbe locks and they have a low number of combinations, in addition to a lock with low tolerances. So many times your key could open a variety of cars.

Never heard on Toyotas though.

Here's the video:
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Re: Made in China Locks

Postby HerrMannelig » 24 Dec 2013 12:38

Nice. I got some like that too! Maybe they are the same. They are smaller though.

All the keys look different, but they all open each other. However, I did that after I shot the video.

Here is me trying to pick these non-locks. I think they may not have driver pins. I'm trying to pick them properly, but I cannot feel the pins...

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Re: Made in China Locks

Postby mechanical_nightmare » 26 Dec 2013 4:28

I bought a cheap, made in PRC lock early on when I was new to picking. Immediately after I opened the package, I was confronted with a noxious, horrid smell that emanated from its dark oxide-like paint. The paint is so poorly made/applied that it began chipping off when I touched it. I picked the lock in about 5 seconds. It only has two pins, and the key looks so deformed/ugly that I could make a much better key for it by hand. It was an honest noob mistake in finding an easy-to-pick practice lock: I have since put away this toxic lock which was a complete waste of money as it can't be used to secure anything and is useless for picking practice.
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