New locks donated and need information.

[Gregted]

Hi all,

Just picked up some locks from the local locksmith having a clean out and would like some information on them. I will include pictures and any details I have.

Especially interested in the Abloy SA 8.1 as he said if I can pick that one, he will give me a job, so it must be a high security one. Have searched on the Abloy site but no reference available.

First photos are Abloy SA 8.1 lock

http://s270.photobucket.com/user/spook0 ... ort=3&o=13
http://s270.photobucket.com/user/spook0 ... ort=3&o=12
http://s270.photobucket.com/user/spook0 ... ort=3&o=11

Next are Emhart lock
http://s270.photobucket.com/user/spook0 ... sort=3&o=3
http://s270.photobucket.com/user/spook0 ... sort=3&o=2

And Emhart key
http://s270.photobucket.com/user/spook0 ... sort=3&o=1
http://s270.photobucket.com/user/spook0 ... sort=3&o=0

Abloy QT 65 B lock
http://s270.photobucket.com/user/spook0 ... sort=3&o=4
http://s270.photobucket.com/user/spook0 ... sort=3&o=6

7 pin circular pin lock with no name
http://s270.photobucket.com/user/spook0 ... sort=3&o=9
http://s270.photobucket.com/user/spook0 ... sort=3&o=7

Having a ball picking regular house locks and padlocks so these should keep me going for a while.
Going back tomorrow for more when the clean out is complete. So watch this space.

Thanks in advance for any help and advice.

Greg

[Squelchtone]

That locksmith has a good sense of humor. Practically no who is a member here here can pick an Abloy, neither of the Abloys you mentioned. Maybe with specially made tools and a couple years practice.. maybe. Also, the numbers stamped on your Abloys are not model numbers, they're numbers of the system they belonged to. One is called an Oval profile cylinder and I believe is in the Abloy Disklock mechanism/keyway, the other is an Abloy High Profile mechanism/keyway cam lock. Abloy locks work like your school locker padlock or a safe lock where there are wheels you have to align, only with your school locker there are 3 wheels, in an Abloy there are 7 to 14 wheels to align. Normal picks do not work on that style of lock mechanism. Look up Abloy animations on youtube, you'll immediately understand what's going on.

The Emhart, good luck there as well, the pins lift and twist and are interlocked, look up Russwin Emhart or Corbin Emhart on google or here. Compared to a Schlage or Kwikset house lock or Master padlock, Emhart will also take you a year or two of practice and understanding and maybe a custom made pick or modified half diamond or hook. I'd rate it harder than picking a Medeco.

The tubular cam lock, that's pretty good to play with, you can probably pick that very soon or within a weeks time playing around with it. look up "tubular lock SPP" on youtube.

Hope this helps, enjoy the forum,
Squelchtone

[Gregted]

Thanks Squelchtone for the reply and advice. These locks will keep me interested for a while. Had a look at some vids on that tubular lock. Guess thats another homemade tension wrench I need to add to my collection.

[GWiens2001]

Also a not of caution on the Emhart...

Once it is picked and the plug turns enough to disengage the driver pins from the key pins, you will very likely need to take the lock apart (remove the brass strip at the top of the pin channels) in order to get the plug turned back to the 'starting point'. Do not pick the lock when it is installed in a door, or you are stuck!

Gordon

[Gregted]

Thanks for the tip Gordon.

Joke # The prostitute says to the leper# End joke

I have the key for the Emhart but was planning on picking it anyway so you saved me destroying it.

Those lock makers are cunning buggers.

Never realised how cunning until I started trying to pick their locks.

Now I just have to learn how to lift and rotate the pins at the same time and I am done.

Could be a while....

[GWiens2001]

The bottom left cutaway in the picture below is an Emhart. If you blow up the picture, you will see that the key pins and the driver pins are linked together.



Gordon

[mechanical_nightmare]

Gregted, you are lucky to have found a locksmith that can donate these kinds of locks to you. I have yet to add an Abloy into my collection and have no idea where I can get one (without paying a huge sum for a new one). The Emhart is also a rather unique lock. If you are new to picking you should probably practice on some standard pin tumbler locks to improve your skills. This forum has many threads with practice lock recommendations, and it will also kind of depend on where you live and what is available too.

[Gregted]

Thanks for the cut away Gordon and the advice from all.

Those are some pieces of art alright and make it so much easier to understand.

I am going to pick up more locks next week so might have some to trade. If I double up, I will let you know.

Should have heaps of Lane and Lockwood. They are the most popular around here.

Also got a brother who is a builder and asked him to keep any he comes across.

I literally walked in the door as they were cleaning out their shop for the new year. How lucky was that.

I normally get there a week late. Mate... you should have been here last week. We just threw out all our stuff...

How often have I heard that one...