Why are jigglers only effective on wafer locks?

[FreyGrimrod]

Bringing a set of those southord jigglers to TOOOL Boston on St Paddy's day if all goes well. Plan to try them out there / let some more capable hands give it a go also.

[Sinifar]

Actually, ANYTHING which goes into a keyway to move pins or discs around will in effect "pick" a lock. I have used many things over the years besides normal lock picks to open locks.

Story - I was locked out of a car and the only spare key I had was the "butt saver" for the commercial in my wallet. I stuffed this into the car, and worked it for a few minutes and it popped the door open. There is a commercial made product, which I won't name, which is made the same way as my key.

Jigglers will work on any lock which it goes into, if you have a light touch. Like using a gun pick, bump keys, or any of the computer picks, a light touch and a lot of practice is needed to get the things to work.

Back in the day, I could take the Ford double ended set, work the ignition to the on position, hit the anchor, remove the lock, and then "read" the position of the discs to estimate the key. It usually worked, and saved tons of time. There are other tools to remove ignition locks without picking which will allow you to get the lock out, and sometimes there is a code number on it -- look it up, punch a key -- program the thing with the transponder tool, and you have a new key for the car.

The biggest mistake most people make trying to open locks is heavy turning force. The only thing you will do is jamb up the pin stacks. Listen for the thing to sound like a bowl of rice crispies. If it is snapping and popping, you are close as the pins set / then drop / then reset. A bit lighter, and it will suddenly pop open.

BE AWARE the industry is onto the locksport of opening locks. Master has it own "Bump Stop" technology in padlocks, and a changed bolt on the 1500 padlocks which a lock shim won't open. Ilco has the 1500 BH, which is "Bump Halt", this is a super strong spring which goes in with a special top pin and trust me, if this is in a lock, no picking / bumping / rapping / jigglers, or much else is going to open it.

Sinifar

[FreyGrimrod]

Here they are to the left of a set of Jigglers others may be more familiar with. The majority have a noticeable size differential. I still have yet to get them to do much of anything but need to give it some more time/haven't tried any mounted locks.

[ghost1]

Anybody else noticed that the jiggler used in the video on the first two locks isn't quite the same as any in the sdj-11 set.

[ghost1]

Just got my sdj-11 jigglers all the way from across the pond just had to have a set after seeing delight boyds and bosnianbills videos, just had too say it " they fluffing ROCK" tried them on my old standard , a tight 5 pin euro cylinder with 3 spools thats a five minute spp, third key in and it pops tried it 3 times and totally repeatable no flook . Well worth the wait excellent work Boyd....

[bjornnrojb]

I got some jiggler keys off of newegg to play around with on my and my gf's cars. No success on a Toyota mid 2000 SUV but they worked a treat on the schlage I have on my garage. Jigglers work just fine on pin tumbler locks and you don't need a tension wrench. Only problem is, they take all of the elegance out of it. I haven't really used them since but always have them for special automotive cases, like this one time I had a guy locked out of his motorhome and the only accessable door was behind a chainlink fence.

[mechanical_nightmare]

Sinifar wrote: trust me, if this is in a lock, no picking / bumping / rapping / jigglers, or much else is going to open it.

Correct me if I am wrong, but this lock can be picked. It is a standard pin tumbler. Members here have picked it. I am confident I would do it if I could get one. The extra strong springs are said to make it harder, but it can indeed be opened by picking.

Sinifar wrote: BE AWARE the industry is onto the locksport of opening locks.

That is a good thing. Manufacturers should always strive to make their products more secure.