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New Mul-T-Lock: Integrator <pics>

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New Mul-T-Lock: Integrator <pics>

Postby ARF-GEF » 29 Sep 2013 9:47

I recently met a brand new member to the Mul-T-lock product range, the "Integrator" and I thought I could share the news with a bit of a breakdown, a short review and a few facts.

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It is positioned between the 7x7 and the Interactive, with 1 special oval pin and a corresponding cut which is pre-cut in the blank.
The special pin has 3 variants, Right, Middle and Left, but only 1 length.
As with 7x7 the 30/30 length has 6 pins on each side (5 normal and 1 "special integrator pin) and sizes 35 and above have 7 pins (6 normal + 1 integrator).
It has decent drill resistance, in fact corresponds to the considerably good SKG 2 stars, inside you can find both hard metal rods and 1 ball inserted.

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The best was I can describe it is that it's basically a 7x7 with an feeble attempt at better blank control. I have more than a feeling that you can mill the fitting 7x7 blank to have that special cut with any dimple key copy machine, MTL should have thought about that! Seriously :roll: ...)
It also sacrifices one of the 7 (or 6 depending on size) pins for the sake of the new pin. So a 30/30 sized integrator has 5 effective pins where you can have different sizes, though admittedly the pins are made precisely and the whole lock is generally well made.
Also I appreciate the SKG2* resistance class, that is very commendable, especially since most criminals don't pick.

From a picking point of view, it's even easier than the usual 7x7.
From the locksmith's perspective it offers better drill resistance at the cost of some master keying possibilities.
And from a consumer viewpoint the new interactive plus (overtaking the old plain "interactive) offers many advantages, much more secure against breaking, significantly better blank control (and higher pick resistance), that comes at a higher price but still I would get the interactive plus.


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It's easy to ID the new model when it's installed, it has a distinctive "i" on the front.

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On a personal note: I think the Integrator key is nothing less than fugly, especially compared to the other multilock key head which I find nice.

The special "integrator" pin:
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(2 of the same kind,just different sides, I think they're "left".)
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Re: New Mul-T-Lock: Integrator <pics>

Postby GWiens2001 » 29 Sep 2013 14:41

Can see how this would only be a key control method. Probably not harder to pick, except for possibly a tiny bit less space to move around the oval pin. Thank you for the picks!

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Re: New Mul-T-Lock: Integrator <pics>

Postby fgarci03 » 30 Sep 2013 6:32

Thanks for sharing this. Fancy new lock!

I agree with you and Gordon on this. Nothing too great to improve security, but a nice concept none the less.
I don't think it was smart to mark these locks with the "I". Now a prepared thief will know what he'ss up against.

But oh well... :mrgreen:


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Re: New Mul-T-Lock: Integrator <pics>

Postby mhole » 30 Sep 2013 7:58

I don't believe that the integrator is new - I've been using them at work for about 8 years. As you said, it's simply a Garrison/7x7 with improved key control. However; the keyway is different from Garrison, and whilst it looks like the same keyway but reversed, I can verify it isn't. Also, whilst the integrator pin is always the same length, it is still an active pin, and must be picked like any other.

Picking wise they're virtually identical,though I find the Garrison keyway a little roomier, and as such easier (usually).
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Re: New Mul-T-Lock: Integrator <pics>

Postby ARF-GEF » 5 Oct 2013 10:41

It's surely new in our market :)

keyway is different from Garrison, and whilst it looks like the same keyway but reversed, I can verify it isn't.


Well there are many keyways both for Garrison and for 7x7, I actually had a 7x7 key which fitted perfectly to the integrator, it depends on the profiles. Surely not all 7x7 fit in itnegrator keyholes (or vica versa) but there are same profiles across the 2 systems.
In fact one of the main selling points here is that you can combine it with existing masterkey systems, or mix it in to new ones.
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Re: New Mul-T-Lock: Integrator <pics>

Postby Cyberfox » 21 Jan 2014 19:48

This is pins from my mul t lock garrison (6 pin ver)

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Not so hard to pick =)
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Re: New Mul-T-Lock: Integrator <pics>

Postby Cyberfox » 1 Feb 2014 16:42

Picking and disassembling mul t lock garrison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzxriWWZm_E
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