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by dr_duke » 22 Jan 2014 18:56
I guess Jigglers are just a special type of rake pick, so they should work the same as raking, but I have never had any luck with my limited use of them. Have any of you had much luck with Jigglers?
If someone does not mind, could you post a basic how-to on the technique you use to make the jiggler work.
Just a side note: I have had a basic dislike of jigglers for many years because of what an old locksmith told me when I was 15. He said, "Jiggler is just another way to spell junk. Stay away from them."
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by smokingman » 22 Jan 2014 20:41
dr_duke wrote:I guess Jigglers are just a special type of rake pick, so they should work the same as raking, but I have never had any luck with my limited use of them. Have any of you had much luck with Jigglers?
If someone does not mind, could you post a basic how-to on the technique you use to make the jiggler work.
Just a side note: I have had a basic dislike of jigglers for many years because of what an old locksmith told me when I was 15. He said, "Jiggler is just another way to spell junk. Stay away from them."
My southord jigglers work fine, I have both the auto and pin tumbler/wafer sets. I just work them up and down and move them in and out about 1/16 of an inch. They seem to be just another computer pick without the need for a tension tool. Just like picking , the tension must be very light though.
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by HerrMannelig » 22 Jan 2014 20:54
dr_duke wrote:I guess Jigglers are just a special type of rake pick, so they should work the same as raking, but I have never had any luck with my limited use of them. Have any of you had much luck with Jigglers?
If someone does not mind, could you post a basic how-to on the technique you use to make the jiggler work.
I've used keys for it. With cheaper wafer locks, such as those on household cash boxes, toolboxes, filing cabinets, etc, you can usually use any key to open any of them. However, the video of the demonstration I have is banned on this forum because the box has the brand name "Sentry Safe" and it is considered an Advanced topic. Just a side note: I have had a basic dislike of jigglers for many years because of what an old locksmith told me when I was 15. He said, "Jiggler is just another way to spell junk. Stay away from them."
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by floridaguy » 27 Jan 2014 17:18
I have a pair of the southord SDJ-11 jigglers and they work great! Especially on wafer locks (such as some cars and cabinets). I just don't use them much since I like to carry all my tools with me and a key chain of jigglers is too bulky for my pockets. I could sell them to you if you're interested. Just shoot me a pm!
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by KPick » 28 Jan 2014 15:53
Yeah, I have a pair and I use them to open my craftsman toolbox since it has a wafer lock on it with lost keys.
I've even turned on a motorcycle I use to have with the jigglers!
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by bjornnrojb » 2 Feb 2014 0:08
I have found jigglers quite useful. Until recently I used the air bladder and long reach tool exclusively in cars, but realized that nothing separated me from AAA and tow trucks so I started trying jigglers and specially cut keys. Used in a figure 8 motion with a little tension, you can open car doors with them. They also work well for jiggling sfic cylinders to control sometimes, which is really useful if you want to save yuour customer the cost of a new sfic cylinder.
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by phrygianradar » 2 Feb 2014 1:55
bjornnrojb wrote:I have found jigglers quite useful. Until recently I used the air bladder and long reach tool exclusively in cars, but realized that nothing separated me from AAA and tow trucks so I started trying jigglers and specially cut keys. Used in a figure 8 motion with a little tension, you can open car doors with them. They also work well for jiggling sfic cylinders to control sometimes, which is really useful if you want to save yuour customer the cost of a new sfic cylinder.
I have never used a jiggler on an SFIC lock before… I will definitely have to give that a try. Sounds like an interesting idea. I have some of the Peterson car jigglers and they work really well. I have opened a bunch of cars with them. No Asian cars, but they work well on GMC and Ford locks, so far.
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by KPick » 2 Feb 2014 16:35
phrygianradar wrote:bjornnrojb wrote:I have found jigglers quite useful. Until recently I used the air bladder and long reach tool exclusively in cars, but realized that nothing separated me from AAA and tow trucks so I started trying jigglers and specially cut keys. Used in a figure 8 motion with a little tension, you can open car doors with them. They also work well for jiggling sfic cylinders to control sometimes, which is really useful if you want to save yuour customer the cost of a new sfic cylinder.
I have never used a jiggler on an SFIC lock before… I will definitely have to give that a try. Sounds like an interesting idea. I have some of the Peterson car jigglers and they work really well. I have opened a bunch of cars with them. No Asian cars, but they work well on GMC and Ford locks, so far.
How do these Peterson Jigglers Look like?
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by sterry20 » 9 Mar 2014 12:13
something people leave out about jiggles it that they can cut a like to hell in a matter on minutes so dont just go crazy on a lock but i use two methods one is just to plain jiggle but only on the pins i start level all the way across the high in the back then high in the front you know just like locks are pinned i always use light tension and then i go through the same motion with a rocking motion lightly rocking up and down useing the same pattern as i just described those of you who have experiance with the gm rocker pick set find this the best method and will have the most luck with this method if you dont have any jiggler you can still perform this exersise with a set of rakes i always start off with my klom city rake and a city rake of any other kind because you will find the klom city rake is different from other city rakes and if im in a hurry ill shoot a bogota down the key way and listen to the pins drop to see if i got any good pin sets. We do only lock outs at our shop and usely have others waiting in line hope this help mate.you just need a little practice to see which tools are going to be your best friend and what tools go with what locks.
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by sterry20 » 9 Mar 2014 12:43
just so there is no confusion you have three different tecniques you have jigglers keys which are one type of key. And can be bought just about any where on the internet. Shaved keys which were made by a lot of street gangs back in the 80's 90's and were used to steal a lot of cars as well as open. they were made by grinding down the same key as the car they were after. Some times grinding them on the side walk they worked well for a short time because manufacuers were doing a shitty job of making locks in the time frame honda mitsibishe even caddys were stolen on a regular bases.Then you have wave keys or marshal keys which are the same and are made on the half cuts in the bitting with a key made on the half cuts you can hit the one and two bitting at the same time my sets come with 5 or 6 keys and each key is a two sided key if one side does not work turn it over and try the other side of the key this way you dont have to walk around with a giant set of try out keys and they are mostly owned by tow truck drivers or people in the reposession field . There is not a lot of info. out there on these wave keys i found one guy that is super bad on the youtube and you can see his video kokomo ind. is where hes from and from the looks of it hes pretty good with a pick and key!
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by sinorix » 16 Mar 2014 22:50
A standard set of Jigglers will work great. The work the best on wafer locks like the king found on car's and filing cabinets. What is nice about them is that they act as both a Tensioner and Rake in one tool. One of the best things that you can do is try to match up the jiggler that you are using to as close to the real key as you can. Is it single or double sided, wide or narrow and so forth. You will find that 3 or 4 jigglers on a standard ring will work the best best for you. As for technique follow the suggestions from some of the post above and PRACTICE like anything else in the hobby.
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by sterry20 » 26 May 2014 11:21
jigglers do work but not on high security locks very well i use mine in a figure eight method pulling them in and out at different heights and i do use mine on your better locks but only to set a few pins then i listen very carefully to how many pins i have set after i get two three or four pins to set i move to the hook or diamond in my tool pouch to finish off the lock this tecnique can also be used with my rake picks which ever is ez-est for you give it a try you wont be disapointed !
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by sterry20 » 26 May 2014 11:23
i have made some home made jigglers that are narrow to better fit in key ways and can open cheap door locks in seconds?
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by sterry20 » 26 May 2014 11:27
I also use some jigglers that can only be found in over seas lock companys that are called duel sided jigglers and remeber each key always has two sides and i have also found that on each key ring their are always a few go to jiggles that i use first and always because they seam to work better.
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by sterry20 » 26 May 2014 11:29
my jiggles are an important tool in my tool box and would never think of leaving home without them!
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