Tool recommendations, information on your favorite automatic and/or mechanical lockpicking devices for those with less skills, or looking to make their own.
by Divinorum » 8 Jan 2014 9:43
WotABoss wrote:Ok. I am just starting out with this lock picking business. I bought this metal tin thing but, I list the keys. I am not looking for anything too serious, but what would be the most efficient, user friendly lock gun. Not a $200 one though. Thanks
If you are just starting out then quite frankly you wont gain anything from purchasing a pick gun. Save your money get a decent set of starter picks and practice. There are plenty of threads on the forum about beginner pick sets. Put your time and effort into learning about lock mechanisms (pins and sheer line), binding order, false sets, feedback, and creating a mental image of the lock. Also use you saved money to pickup some locks to practice on. Work your way up on difficulty. This will pay off in the long run 10x more than a pick gun will.
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by Warbs87 » 11 Feb 2014 16:14
I bought myself a Sparrow flash pick gun from Qtactical and I love it. When I get called to a lockout its my go to for any weiser/kwikset lock, both of which are the most common locks around here(Manitoba, Canada). My problem is any schlage I can't seem to make it work. I find it a 100x easier to use manual picks on any Schlage. Padlocks the pick gun works great on too. It has held up pretty good, I have been using it regularly for about 6 months now. Once you get the hang of it, it's really sick and quite simple to use.
For Kwikset locks and general residential lock is usually about 2 or 3 clicks and with the right tension they pop right open.
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by billdeserthills » 21 Mar 2014 1:27
Warbs87 wrote:I bought myself a Sparrow flash pick gun from Qtactical and I love it. When I get called to a lockout its my go to for any weiser/kwikset lock, both of which are the most common locks around here(Manitoba, Canada). My problem is any schlage I can't seem to make it work. I find it a 100x easier to use manual picks on any Schlage. Padlocks the pick gun works great on too. It has held up pretty good, I have been using it regularly for about 6 months now. Once you get the hang of it, it's really sick and quite simple to use.
For Kwikset locks and general residential lock is usually about 2 or 3 clicks and with the right tension they pop right open.
I have noticed the same trouble with schlage, especially the newer line of their locks, which come from the factory with spool-driver top pins. I got myself a set of bump keys and now just hafta practice with them. One nice thing about bump keys is they are not troubled by spool drivers the way my pick gun seems to be. Until I get the hang of bump keys I will just drill open anything that I cannot pick, which is how I have been handling this problem since 1990
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by spandexwarrior » 21 Mar 2014 12:50
This is my favorite pick gun, works every time.   -Brian
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by billdeserthills » 21 Mar 2014 17:18
spandexwarrior wrote:This is my favorite pick gun, works every time.   -Brian
That's one heckuva weighted tension wrench 
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by GWiens2001 » 21 Mar 2014 17:21
It does give you the option of non-destructive entry or destructive entry.
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by KPick » 22 Mar 2014 14:09
spandexwarrior wrote:This is my favorite pick gun, works every time.   -Brian
I have the same one. I was once trying to arrest a perpetrator, and I had to pick the door open to get in so I can surprise the evil scum. Turns out I had shot him through the door and accidentally hit him. I have never used a pick gun ever since!
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by billdeserthills » 28 Mar 2014 0:23
The Majestic pick gun is supposed to be the heaviest duty manual pick gun available it comes with a lifetime warranty and I once had to send mine back in after using it for 10 years. A brand-new one was promptly returned to me. One thing about this pick gun is due to it's heavier construction throughout, it has a slightly different action from the other more commonly sold manual pick guns. You'll get used to it in no time
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by victorylocksmith » 4 Apr 2014 3:24
billdeserthills wrote:Warbs87 wrote:I bought myself a Sparrow flash pick gun from Qtactical and I love it. When I get called to a lockout its my go to for any weiser/kwikset lock, both of which are the most common locks around here(Manitoba, Canada). My problem is any schlage I can't seem to make it work. I find it a 100x easier to use manual picks on any Schlage. Padlocks the pick gun works great on too. It has held up pretty good, I have been using it regularly for about 6 months now. Once you get the hang of it, it's really sick and quite simple to use.
For Kwikset locks and general residential lock is usually about 2 or 3 clicks and with the right tension they pop right open.
I have noticed the same trouble with schlage, especially the newer line of their locks, which come from the factory with spool-driver top pins. I got myself a set of bump keys and now just hafta practice with them. One nice thing about bump keys is they are not troubled by spool drivers the way my pick gun seems to be. Until I get the hang of bump keys I will just drill open anything that I cannot pick, which is how I have been handling this problem since 1990
it's not just the spool pins, with enough effort and some chance, even the toughest spool pins can be set properly. The real issue is Schlage locks have an annoying keyway which prevents the pickgun from getting an optimal clearance and the tension wrench placement is odd as well. This causes the pick gun to not manipulate the pins properly and in many cases will knock the tension wrench loose. Oh and there is also the HUGE issue of the springs holding the pins being a lot thicker so you need a lot more tension from the actual pick gun. All this aside, I believe that SC locks can still be snapped open but it requires the pick gun to be used with tension in addition to proper stabilization and tension with the tension wrench. I came to this conclusion after being unable to shim a very stubborn SC lock. I was however, able to get the shim in one or two pins deep. I then inserted the pick gun and snapped away a few times with some minimal effort at establishing the right tension with the tension wrench. The lock then quickly became unlocked. I believe, in theory with the use of the circular tension wrench, these locks can be snapped open with much less effort than normally anticipated. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV2dlxMSaKE.
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by billdeserthills » 4 Apr 2014 10:54
I find that the newer schlage locks need to be reverse shimmed, this is because the spool drivers are trapping the shim. Just start with the blank all the way in the lock, that way the spool drivers will all be above the shear-line. You hafta remove the shim very slowly and if the shim does get caught on a spool driver don't muck up the edge, just pull the shim back out a little bit and push the key back in some, and try that pin again.
What you say about picking reminds me of how my Dad picks with a pick gun (manual). He actually seems to apply the tension before he pulls the trigger on the pick gun, in a way I never have reliably mastered. My way is to apply light tension through-out and after several clicks I usually give a rake with my diamond or hook pick, to get the last 2 or 3 pins left. I tried key-bumping the other day with dismal results, I guess I should probably take most of the pins out of an old lock & learn all over again like I did with picking.
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by Royal » 30 Sep 2014 17:11
I have never used a pick gun because to me the fun of opening a lock is picking it and the gun seems to me that it wouldn't be as fun.I guess. If I did this for a living and need to open the lock fast it might be good to have but I never need to open a lock fast.When I first started I learned on my own.I just bought a small pick kit and started trying. I finally did it and it's just a hobby I didn't even know about raking for years and now I rake sometimes but I still like just doing it by feel
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by billdeserthills » 30 Sep 2014 21:22
Using a pick gun is no guarantee that the lock You are working on will actually open, but I think I find out faster whether it will pick open or not and that gets my job on it's way. Many of my clients will not allow me to destroy their locks nowadays, and I guess that is maybe due to their smaller budgets in this current economy. I had a client the other day who needed her front gate picked open & I was unable to on my first try. We went to the back gate which I did pick open, but unfortunately it used a dif key than the rest of the house. I couldn't pick open the profile lock in the back part of the house either, so while she was telling me her husband would be home in an hour to let her in, I went back to working on the front gate again and I did finally get it open. If I hadn't been able to pick it she would have paid me nothing, as I won't charge if I can't help someone. I'm glad I did finally get her gate unlocked as it has been slow at work and I needed that money!
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by learninglocks » 19 Feb 2015 17:05
I found that some manual lock pick guns are put together using rivets which doesn't allow you to get in your gun and grease up the mechanism inside of them... Not cool.... especially if you just spend $50 on the tool to begin with!
I recently purchased a good Lock pick gun made by KLOM and sold on this site: [url]https://iamaspammer.com[/url] the KLOM Lock Pick Gun that I purchased has a very strong spring that will easily pick pin tumbler and disc tumbler locks. It comes with 3 pick blades and 1 tension wrench that are of pretty good quality. This pick gun is different from most guns on the online, because the gun is assembled with screws instead of rivets, it can be opened with a screwdriver and the coating of gun consists of lacquer that can resist stain and rust.
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by billdeserthills » 19 Feb 2015 20:16
learninglocks wrote:I found that some manual lock pick guns are put together using rivets which doesn't allow you to get in your gun and grease up the mechanism inside of them... Not cool.... especially if you just spend $50 on the tool to begin with! I recently purchased a good Lock pick gun made by KLOM and sold on this site: https://i%20am%20a%20spammer.com the KLOM Lock Pick Gun that I purchased has a very strong spring that will easily pick pin tumbler and disc tumbler locks. It comes with 3 pick blades and 1 tension wrench that are of pretty good quality. This pick gun is different from most guns on the online, because the gun is assembled with screws instead of rivets, it can be opened with a screwdriver and the coating of gun consists of lacquer that can resist stain and rust.
I have 2 Majestic Life guaranteed pickguns that I use often, both are riveted shut and they are still warranteed for life. My Ilco pick guns did have screws instead of rivits and I would be lucky if they lasted half as long as the Majestic. I can't find any fault with the rivits, the problem is when the pick gun breaks, I have not in 40 years at least, ever seen something wrong that I could fix. Nice Try Klom, maybe next time
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by MBI » 19 Feb 2015 23:04
learninglocks wrote:I recently purchased a good Lock pick gun made by KLOM and sold on this site: https://iamaspammer.com the KLOM Lock Pick Gun that I purchased has a very strong spring that will easily pick pin tumbler and disc tumbler locks. It comes with 3 pick blades and 1 tension wrench that are of pretty good quality. This pick gun is different from most guns on the online, because the gun is assembled with screws instead of rivets, it can be opened with a screwdriver and the coating of gun consists of lacquer that can resist stain and rust.
Nice try there bub. From your IP address I can see that you are in fact a representative of the website you are trying to plug for free here on our forum. We don't like spammers, especially when they masquerade as phony customer testimonials. Enjoy your ban. Don't come back.
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