I'm here with another post (lol). This time, my goal is to be able to find out how hard my Schlage lock is. The general advice for a beginner is not to begin with a Schlage lock. They say its hard to get into. I know the warding is fine because i can start picking without any problems. So how do i find out if there are security pins, or spool pins? What makes this Schlage lock so difficult? I think i found exactly what i have online: http://goo.gl/onvTKx (I have shortened the url because it was too long).
Also here is a picture
What do you guys think about it or how can i tell how hard it is?
"Some people dream of success, while others wake up and work hard at it" - Winston Churchhill
How to find out how hard it is to pick? By picking it!!!
A Schlage probably will have spool pins in it. Probably a good idea to read up here on how to field strip the lock, and see what pins are in there. Then start with one set of pins (spring, driver pin and key pin) at a time. Add them as you get better.
Be sure you do not leave the springs and driver pins in any stack with no key pins!!
Good luck,
Gordon
Just when you finally think you have learned it all, that is when you learn that you don't know anything yet.
GWiens2001 wrote:How to find out how hard it is to pick? By picking it!!!
A Schlage probably will have spool pins in it. Probably a good idea to read up here on how to field strip the lock, and see what pins are in there. Then start with one set of pins (spring, driver pin and key pin) at a time. Add them as you get better.
Be sure you do not leave the springs and driver pins in any stack with no key pins!!
Good luck,
Gordon
Thanks for replying. I should have probably said that when i tried to pick it, i couldn't find the binding pin no matter what, or all the pins seemed to be set but one. I should have also said that although i don't really care about the lock, it is attatched to a door and can't take it down. How do i detect spool or security pins??
Mike
"Some people dream of success, while others wake up and work hard at it" - Winston Churchhill
We say this over and over again - do not pick a lock in use!!! You will find dozens of threads here by people who screwed up a lock in use, and want emergency help getting the lock to open (or close). Get another lock to practice on!!! It is much cheaper than hiring someone to come out and fix it!
Gordon
Just when you finally think you have learned it all, that is when you learn that you don't know anything yet.
Gwiens2001 wrote:We say this over and over again - do not pick a lock in use!!! You will find dozens of threads here by people who screwed up a lock in use, and want emergency help getting the lock to open (or close). Get another lock to practice on!!! It is much cheaper than hiring someone to come out and fix it!
I know, i know, that is why i don't practice on my front door lock. But this lock is a spare bedroom lock (Yeah, i know, the previous owner was a little paranoid for putting a Schlage) , and the door is almost never locked and barely closed. I just cannot take it out, because it will look bad. My Master No. 3 is coming in a few days, but i am impatient to pick something, and i have already practiced on the Schlage for so long. Its really a lock that i would not mind breaking. If i was practicing on my front door, or even my terrace lock, that would be a different story.
That being said, can you or someone else try to answer my question above? If the Schlage doesn't have security pins, then why won't it set?? I really don't seem to feel any binding pins!!
"Some people dream of success, while others wake up and work hard at it" - Winston Churchhill
try applying more tension. too light of a touch and they wont bind
I've tried all levels of tension. (Unless you mean huge amounts) Is there any way that there are no binding pins on the lock? or is this because of the presence of security pins?
"Some people dream of success, while others wake up and work hard at it" - Winston Churchhill
I have talked to the OP and we have established with photos and some back and fourth that he does have keys to the locks in question as well as access the master lock from another older thread.
KPick wrote: I have a Schlage lock and 4 out of the 5 pins were spool pins. Maybe you haven't been able to open it because you ran into a few spools.
Thanks for the info . So how do i overcome spool pins? Is there a way to feel for spool pins?
Yes my friend. I'm not going to sugar coat it. Over coming spools takes PRACTICE! I had a hard time at first (spools take about a couple of weeks to master), but who knows, you might be faster than me at learning the spool defeat. No one explains it better than my buddy here Bosnian Bill.
Watch this video and he will give you a comprehensive way of learning it. I used the marker technique to learn as well. Good luck Parkourer!
EDIT: It's worth learning spools. Trust me.
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To deal with spool pins, use a pick to lift each pin individually. A spool pin will start to force the plug to turn backwards against the tension wrench. Ease off the tension on the wrench, and keep lifting that pin until the pin sets 'again'.
Gordon
Just when you finally think you have learned it all, that is when you learn that you don't know anything yet.
I have a Schlage lock and 4 out of the 5 pins were spool pins. Maybe you haven't been able to open it because you ran into a few spools.
I had a hard time at first (spools take about a couple of weeks to master), but who knows, you might be faster than me at learning the spool defeat. No one explains it better than my buddy here Bosnian Bill.