Cant get into this lock with spp. Need help.

[Ehr160]

Here are some images of the lock it is 4 pin. All standard. Ive been setting every pin and it just wont turn even though all the pins are set.
http://s765.photobucket.com/user/Ellis_ ... =3&page=1#
Here are some images of the lock. Sorry if i miss anything its my first post.
Also the images are 1-2 mb

[Onz]

Most new pickers don't know fully how a lock works inside and out. So just jamming in a pick, you can easily over set a pin. Feel if a pin has no tension and just comes back down with no pressure, if that is so then a pin is set.

New pickers should really have a read of this pdf called "Lockpicking Detailed Overkill". Written by the member of this forum. This will teach you binding orders, oversetting, etc etc.

Password is: evva3ks
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jacqueline ... erkill.pdf

Edit, P.s. the first photo you have the pick in but the tension has no tension on it, Unless that is due to you taking a photo and needed the other hand.

[Ehr160]

Most new pickers don't know fully how a lock works inside and out. So just jamming in a pick, you can easily over set a pin. Feel if a pin has no tension and just comes back down with no pressure, if that is so then a pin is set.

New pickers should really have a read of this pdf called "Lockpicking Detailed Overkill". Written by the member of this forum. This will teach you binding orders, oversetting, etc etc.

Password is: evva3ks
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jacqueline ... erkill.pdf

Edit, P.s. the first photo you have the pick in but the tension has no tension on it, Unless that is due to you taking a photo and needed the other hand.

Yes the photo was because i needed my hand.
Thank you for the pdf and advice. ^^
Edit: I believe i know what i was doing wrong. I was mainly moving my wrist for setting the pins. My mistake.

[Ehr160]

One more thing. The lock was very rigid so i was getting no feedback.

[GWiens2001]

Try liighter tension.

Gordon

[Squelchtone]

hey Ehr160,

Just gonna mention this, but we sometimes get new pickers here who have 1 post and upload a close up cell phone photo of some lock that is clearly in use or on some door in some dark hallway and they ask for help picking it. As you can imagine, this sets of all sort of flags for us, and I'm not saying you're one of those folks who is trying to do something sneaky or bad, but your photo sure fits the bill based on the types of pics we've seen over the years.

Can I ask what in the heck that lock is mounted to anyway? and do you have any better lighting available at that location?

Thanks,
Squelchtone

[Ehr160]

hey Ehr160,

Just gonna mention this, but we sometimes get new pickers here who have 1 post and upload a close up cell phone photo of some lock that is clearly in use or on some door in some dark hallway and they ask for help picking it. As you can imagine, this sets of all sort of flags for us, and I'm not saying you're one of those folks who is trying to do something sneaky or bad, but your photo sure fits the bill based on the types of pics we've seen over the years.

Can I ask what in the heck that lock is mounted to anyway? and do you have any better lighting available at that location?

Thanks,
Squelchtone

Its not mounted to anything at the moment. It is one of my old bike locks. Thought to use it as i had no other locks in hand.
Edit: The trouble with both of my bike locks i am currently using for practice is that i barely get any feedback so its incredibly difficult to tell when the pins are set and not over-set them

[Onz]

Edit: The trouble with both of my bike locks i am currently using for practice is that i barely get any feedback so its incredibly difficult to tell when the pins are set and not over-set them

Just buy a cheap 5-10 dollars lock from your local hardware shop and practice on something that is not in use.

[KPick]

A bike lock huh? I was wondering what that lock was. I like your pick set. Is it a Goso set?

[Ehr160]

A bike lock huh? I was wondering what that lock was. I like your pick set. Is it a Goso set?

Yes it is i love the set Its also got two sides but they are mainly car picks and rakes.

Edit: The trouble with both of my bike locks i am currently using for practice is that i barely get any feedback so its incredibly difficult to tell when the pins are set and not over-set them

Just buy a cheap 5-10 dollars lock from your local hardware shop and practice on something that is not in use.

I just bought some master locks to practice on

[KPick]

A bike lock huh? I was wondering what that lock was. I like your pick set. Is it a Goso set?

Yes it is i love the set Its also got two sides but they are mainly car picks and rakes.

Edit: The trouble with both of my bike locks i am currently using for practice is that i barely get any feedback so its incredibly difficult to tell when the pins are set and not over-set them

Just buy a cheap 5-10 dollars lock from your local hardware shop and practice on something that is not in use.

I just bought some master locks to practice on

I founds those car picks useful. They really work awesome like. I got something like that in the Klom set I bought.

[Ehr160]

I found out why it was so difficult to spp but easy to rake. The 4th pin binds very deep in. The 3rd takes barely any. So i am trying to set 4 which binds first and end up oversetting 3.

[KPick]

I found out why it was so difficult to spp but easy to rake. The 4th pin binds very deep in. The 3rd takes barely any. So i am trying to set 4 which binds first and end up oversetting 3.

Are you applying tension to the bottom of the lock bro?

[Ehr160]

I found out why it was so difficult to spp but easy to rake. The 4th pin binds very deep in. The 3rd takes barely any. So i am trying to set 4 which binds first and end up oversetting 3.

Are you applying tension to the bottom of the lock bro?

Yes i am

[KPick]

I found out why it was so difficult to spp but easy to rake. The 4th pin binds very deep in. The 3rd takes barely any. So i am trying to set 4 which binds first and end up oversetting 3.

Are you applying tension to the bottom of the lock bro?

Yes i am

Try applying tension to the top of the keyway. Using the bottom of the keyway as the tension spot may lead to you oversetting a pin or two as you insert your pick.