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4 pins, only one required binding pin?

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4 pins, only one required binding pin?

Postby parkourer » 21 Feb 2014 15:01

Hey,

So I was just picking my no. 3, without moving my pick randomly. I tried the speed bump method. I had been noticing this for a while. I inserted my pick, found the binding pin, and released some tension while applying pressure to that pin. That made the lock open :o . The reason why I think this is that the first pin looked like was still unset Is this normal? I thought the binding effect would move on. I'm confused :p

Thanks
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Re: 4 pins, only one required binding pin?

Postby njcanderson » 22 Feb 2014 9:40

I've had this happen to me with a few really cheap deadbolts I had lying around the house. From my experience and some things that I've read, it seems this happens for a few reasons.

The first reason is that there are large tolerances in these cheaper locks, so pins are going to be able to be set a lot easier. Another reason seems to be that if the biting of the key is relatively flat, when you put your pick in the lock with some tension on it, you can inadvertently set some of the pins as you pass over them. You may do this, and when you get to that last pin that opens it, it's just the last one that binds.
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Re: 4 pins, only one required binding pin?

Postby parkourer » 22 Feb 2014 16:28

njcanderson wrote:I've had this happen to me with a few really cheap deadbolts I had lying around the house. From my experience and some things that I've read, it seems this happens for a few reasons.

The first reason is that there are large tolerances in these cheaper locks, so pins are going to be able to be set a lot easier. Another reason seems to be that if the biting of the key is relatively flat, when you put your pick in the lock with some tension on it, you can inadvertently set some of the pins as you pass over them. You may do this, and when you get to that last pin that opens it, it's just the last one that binds.


Thanks for your reply :). Have you ever picked a Master Lock No. 3? The thing is, the first pin doesn't seem to move from its original position at all. The biting is not at all smooth though, so it can't be that. I really don't know what it could be
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Re: 4 pins, only one required binding pin?

Postby reverendus » 22 Feb 2014 17:46

I have had it happen on occasion while picking a #3 as well. There have been times where I just stuck the pick in with some tension on it and it popped.
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Re: 4 pins, only one required binding pin?

Postby parkourer » 23 Feb 2014 14:48

reverendus wrote:I have had it happen on occasion while picking a #3 as well. There have been times where I just stuck the pick in with some tension on it and it popped.


What did you make of it? Did you pick it so many times it wore out or was it just like that?
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Re: 4 pins, only one required binding pin?

Postby reverendus » 23 Feb 2014 22:56

No, I don't think I wore it out. It is more likely that I set pins without even realizing it as I put the pick in and when I lifted the pin I was trying to set it opened.
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