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Eletronic Protocol Realized?

TOSL Project. A community project to "build a better mousetrap".

Re: Eletronic Protocol Realized?

Postby jonwil » 23 Feb 2014 18:04

I have yet to see an electronic lock designed for residential use (or for single-use without the need for a big system behind it) that was any good.
All of them fail either because the electronics are crap or (more usually) because they have a backup key (and its usually of the kind that's trivial to defeat rather than the kind that's deflatable only with a lot of effort)

Same with pretty much all the safes you can buy at hardware and office stores, most of the ones I have seen either have key locking mechanisms that look somewhat beefy but are probably not that secure in the real world or they have electronic keypads with backup key locks (usually trivially picked tubular locks)

Why are so few people making residential locks with genuinely GOOD security?
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Re: Eletronic Protocol Realized?

Postby Achyfellow » 25 Feb 2014 9:46

jonwil wrote:Why are so few people making residential locks with genuinely GOOD security?


1.- They require lots of R&D (Producing a lock that is actually secure is not trivial)
2.- They are expensive to produce (Tighter tolerances, expensive materials, etc)
3.- Because of 1) and 2), the prices of these locks are higher
4.- Because of 3) the sale volumes are lower, since people doe not care about security and they just want something to put on their doors. A $20 schlage/tesa/kwikset/whatever with any sort of 'anti pick' logo in the case is good enough.
5.- Because of 4), only a few manufacturers bother with high security locks. Given the chance, an average business owner will choose the zero research costs and the cheap outsourced production of generic stuff sold at regular prices than something that can cost them lots of money and it's more hard to market and sell.

It doesn't happen with locks only, on every single thing you will see the same pattern. Why are so few manufacturers making awesome sports cars? Or cameras, musical instruments, tools, etc? Because for most people cheaper items are 'good enough', and very few will take the risk of marketing higher quality products not everyone will want to buy.
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Re: Eletronic Protocol Realized?

Postby C locked » 2 Feb 2016 5:48

Has anybody got one of these
And the ability to sniff the data transfer and determine
whether the lock uses more than a solenoid
triggered by the inital Bluetooth "handshake"
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