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by hetz » 26 Feb 2014 22:42
Looking to get a pin kit with the most bang for the buck as this is just a hobby. Looking at the lab kits. Whats the difference in the .003 and .005 kit? Will both be needed and if so does someone sell a kit that comes with both? Thanks for the help.
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by GWiens2001 » 26 Feb 2014 22:54
The difference is .002"  The difference is being about .002-.003" of the actual size and being within .001". Most people can get by with .005. But some locks are pretty picky, and the .003 will get you close enough to work. Gordon
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by Divinorum » 27 Feb 2014 19:53
Do the lab kits come with springs too?
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by GWiens2001 » 27 Feb 2014 19:57
Some do, some do not. If you look at a picture of what you are buying, you should be able to see if there are springs.
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by cledry » 1 Mar 2014 1:06
I carry a .005 Zipf kit and a Lab .003 kit. The Lab rarely gets used. I've had the Zipf kit for 28 years.
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by I Pik U » 2 Mar 2014 22:01
I've only used .005" kits in 25+ years. Have some factory specific kits, Yale, Corbin etc, but don't use them much unless doing a building master system.
 Been playing with locks since '68.
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by alockguru » 5 Mar 2014 16:11
hetz wrote:Looking to get a pin kit with the most bang for the buck as this is just a hobby. Looking at the lab kits. Whats the difference in the .003 and .005 kit? Will both be needed and if so does someone sell a kit that comes with both? Thanks for the help.
I use and prefer the lab super wedge .003 but... Its mainly because I'm a bit lazy about refilling the empties and its harder to make due when the size you need is empty and the next closet thing is .005+ off. I also use a custom made container holding all pins needed for SC & KW that is small and fits in my work bag. Just in case its to much of a pain to take locks back to service vehicle.
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by bjornnrojb » 6 Mar 2014 22:06
I use one of these http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-16137770143630_2266_41404551 90% of the time. They come with a little plastic insert that you put over the pins. I have that full of master pins. This pin kit is really small, it fits in my coat pocket. That is really nice when you are going up to the 20th floor of a building and had to park three blocks away, because you can pin the lock on site and save yourself 30 minutes. It is also nice if you are pinning up an apartment building solo and don't want to worry about security issues of 50 doors without locks on them while you are in the back of a van. Of course, this little pin kit is only good to pin up about twenty schlage cylinders before a refill.
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by smathis » 9 Mar 2014 21:09
I've used the " woody" kit for 12 years in .005 only thing I've ever needed.
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by MSL » 11 Apr 2014 9:07
I just recently bought a used pin kit from ebay, it was a lab .003 from an estate sale. The seller said it was a little mixed up and put some photos up. It looked of, like I could just spend an evening with a caliper and get it working, and at the price it was a good deal.
Then it arrived. I don't know how old the kit was, but it wasn't like the new kits that are designed to be carried like a brief case. The handle was in the middle of the box and it was obviously never meant to be set on its side. Certainly not upright leaned against the wall how the post office delivered it.
While the photos showed a fairly well stocked pin set that was a little mixed here and there but still apparently usable, what I got when I opened it, however, could best be described as what you'd see if a rabid wolverine went crazy in the fruity pebbles factory. It was the most terrifying thing I had ever seen involving locks. I just starred at it before I went to check the return policy. (Thank God for refund agreements)
I had opened the thing up on my bed, and when I woke up the next day I had very thin master pins stuck to my face.
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by Divinorum » 11 Apr 2014 10:49
Oh man that's nuts. Thank god for returns is right  I ended up buying the Lab LMK003 Mini Pin Kit new from amazon. Got a much better price than other internet sites wanted.
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by deralian » 12 Feb 2015 12:24
Most of the people who have the .005 kit are the ones who've had one for a long time. The .003 kit is kind of like the newer version. Most people who don't already have a kit will buy a .003 kit because it offers more flexibility. Specialty Products offers a good kit that is less expensive than lab.
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by GWiens2001 » 12 Feb 2015 12:52
Now have both the .003 LAB kit and a 37 year old .005 'woody' kit that was just given to me. Which one I use depends on what I am working on. The .005 will most likely handle the majority of jobs, but am used to the .003 kit for a more precise fit.
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by billdeserthills » 12 Feb 2015 17:30
GWiens2001 wrote:Now have both the .003 LAB kit and a 37 year old .005 'woody' kit that was just given to me. Which one I use depends on what I am working on. The .005 will most likely handle the majority of jobs, but am used to the .003 kit for a more precise fit.
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You'll find that a decent flat file will fix that precise problem
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by GWiens2001 » 12 Feb 2015 19:45
billdeserthills wrote:GWiens2001 wrote:Now have both the .003 LAB kit and a 37 year old .005 'woody' kit that was just given to me. Which one I use depends on what I am working on. The .005 will most likely handle the majority of jobs, but am used to the .003 kit for a more precise fit.
Gordon
You'll find that a decent flat file will fix that precise problem
+1 on that, Bill. For most people, there is no real need to go the extra mile for a difference of .002". Gordon
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