Crimped spring cap removal

[dixondoy80]

I tryed to search for this and could not find anything. Is there a tool or some kind of holder to crimp an uncrimp the spring holder on a schlage cylinder?

[2octops]

Which Schlage cylinder?

Why would you want to?

[GWiens2001]

Are you referring to the spring cap at the top of the bible, that keeps the springs and pins inside the lock?

Gordon

[Divinorum]

Sounds like Schlage F series....I hate them

[KPick]

Sounds like Schlage F series....I hate them

Oh lord no. I hate this lock! It's been such a pain in the ass to open!
I don't even know ow to open it! It's only a freegin hole.

[Divinorum]

Sounds like Schlage F series....I hate them

Oh lord no. I hate this lock! It's been such a pain in the ass to open!
I don't even know ow to open it! It's only a freegin hole.

Agreed, that floating bible cap is a nightmare. If i had to open one I'd be inclined to just push the pins up so far that the bible cap would break off and then Just replace the cap or if possible switch it out for a solid brass KIK cylinder.

[GWiens2001]

That lock is a privacy lock, intended for bathrooms and other interior doors.

Put a straight stiff wire into the hole, and keeping it straight, push it in until you feel it stop. Then push a bit harder, and you will feel it is a spring-loaded plunger your press. While it is pressed, then you can turn the handle.

Some of them will have a slot instead of the spring loaded plunger way inside. Then you use a very thin flat screwdriver to find the slot, and turn it 90 degrees. Those privacy locks can be determined by the knob that turns to lock the interior door, instead of a button pushed in.

Gordon

[Divinorum]

That lock is a privacy lock, intended for bathrooms and other interior doors.

Put a straight stiff wire into the hole, and keeping it straight, push it in until you feel it stop. Then push a bit harder, and you will feel it is a spring-loaded plunger your press. While it is pressed, then you can turn the handle.

Some of them will have a slot instead of the spring loaded plunger way inside. Then you use a very thin flat screwdriver to find the slot, and turn it 90 degrees. Those privacy locks can be determined by the knob that turns to lock the interior door, instead of a button pushed in.

Gordon

Stiff paper clips usually work well. TO answer the OPs question, I don't know of any special tool to crimp the caps. I have just been using pliers.

[YouLuckyFox]

Sounds like Schlage F series....I hate them

Oh lord no. I hate this lock! It's been such a pain in the ass to open!
I don't even know how to open it! It's only a freegin hole.

Yeah, in a pinch taking a disposable ball-point pen apart yields a tube of perfect diameter to go in that "freegin hole" .

[dixondoy80]

I wish I knew what kind of lock it is. On top of the housing were the springs are a kwikset would have a removable cap this one has a thin strip of medal and the top of the brass is crimped down.

[YouLuckyFox]

Yeah, I've seen this with a lot of locks. Before Cledry told me about plug followers I was using a small screwdriver and prying this strip of brass up, changing the pins, and putting the brass back down and securing with a rubber band or re-crimping. I've read of using a hacksaw bald to bite into the strip of metal and pull it out horizontally as well. Insert the strip and re-crimp as needed. But if you can fashion a plug follower for yourself and use a pair of tweezers / needle nosed pliers there aren't too many reasons to remove a spring cap, anyway.

[dixondoy80]

I guess I was thinking of a easy way to put in and remove sercuity pins

[GWiens2001]

Recommend using a plug follower and tweezers, as stated by YLF. It take a little practice, but not a lot. It works well.

Gordon

[KPick]

Like everyone said above me. A screw driver works well. Just try to slide it out of the clamped lips of the top. I did it and to be honest, that was probably the easiest repinning I have ever done on a quality lock.

[cledry]

Easiest way to remove them is take a hacksaw blade (save old broken ones) and tap it straight down onto the cap with a small hammer with the teeth pointing toward the rear of the cylinder. Then tap the blade from the front face and it will bite into the cap sliding the cap off with no damage.

To reinstall you bend the cap into an upside-down v shape along its long axis and place on top of the bible. Then using the side of a suitable flat piece of metal (I use the side of a bastard file) tap it down. As the v is flattened the cap will slide right under the existing crimps and no other work to secure it will be needed.

Sounds more complex than it is. I've done it this way for at least 20 years and it is really fast. I mainly use it on things like IC core Corbin/Russwin cylinders that are not keyed with a follower.