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Circles on outside of padlock body?

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Circles on outside of padlock body?

Postby Divinorum » 20 Mar 2014 23:56

I'v noticed that a few of my padlocks have these marks on the outside of them and I'm quite curious.
Does anyone know what these circles are for or from?
What purpose do they serve?
Do the circles match the amount of pins (6 pins?)
Whats the large circle on top?

Thanks :D

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Re: Circles on outside of padlock body?

Postby spandexwarrior » 21 Mar 2014 0:13

Those are the caps for the pin chambers and the locking components. Most of the time if a lock is manufactured that way they will finish it so you can't see it like that but it's very common on many brass locks like that. The big disadvantage is that the lock can't be rekeyed but otherwise it's just like anything else except that the bible is part of the body instead of a discrete component.

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Re: Circles on outside of padlock body?

Postby Divinorum » 21 Mar 2014 0:29

spandexwarrior wrote:Those are the caps for the pin chambers and the locking components. Most of the time if a lock is manufactured that way they will finish it so you can't see it like that but it's very common on many brass locks like that. The big disadvantage is that the lock can't be rekeyed but otherwise it's just like anything else except that the bible is part of the body instead of a discrete component.

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Makes sense, thanks for the info. :wink:
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Re: Circles on outside of padlock body?

Postby GWiens2001 » 21 Mar 2014 1:18

You can carefully drill out those plugs, then rekey the lock. Make new brass caps for reassembly, then sand them to blend.

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Re: Circles on outside of padlock body?

Postby dosman » 24 Mar 2014 20:05

Or tap the holes after drilling out the plugs and seal back with set screws so you can re-pin the lock easier next time.
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Re: Circles on outside of padlock body?

Postby Paleo123 » 24 Mar 2014 21:06

If the cylinder has spring tension on it the sixth hole could be for the spring. I say this because if you are having trouble finding the 6th pin it's probably not there.
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Re: Circles on outside of padlock body?

Postby cledry » 24 Mar 2014 21:10

They are rekeyable. The 6th small circle is for a solid pin that retains the cylinder plug. There is a groove milled around the cylinder plug and this solid pin just sits in this groove. They sell replacement caps for these. You can order them from Yale and Corbin still.
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Re: Circles on outside of padlock body?

Postby Divinorum » 24 Mar 2014 22:09

cledry wrote:They are rekeyable. The 6th small circle is for a solid pin that retains the cylinder plug. There is a groove milled around the cylinder plug and this solid pin just sits in this groove. They sell replacement caps for these. You can order them from Yale and Corbin still.


I don't see how It could be re keyed unless you drilled out the caps. The caps don't even feel like a separate piece. They are 100% flush with the body and do not move at all.
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Re: Circles on outside of padlock body?

Postby GWiens2001 » 24 Mar 2014 22:31

You do drill out the caps. Drill a small hole in them, then put in a screw and pull out the caps. Then you can rekey the lock. Replace the caps with new ones, and sand them flat.

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Re: Circles on outside of padlock body?

Postby Divinorum » 24 Mar 2014 23:45

GWiens2001 wrote:You do drill out the caps. Drill a small hole in them, then put in a screw and pull out the caps. Then you can rekey the lock. Replace the caps with new ones, and sand them flat.

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Gotcha. How do the new caps stay in place? Do they thread in or what?
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Re: Circles on outside of padlock body?

Postby GWiens2001 » 25 Mar 2014 6:50

Friction fit - you tap them in until they wedge in place. Then you sand them flat. You would also follow the same disassembly process if you wanted to make a cutaway of that lock.

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Re: Circles on outside of padlock body?

Postby cledry » 25 Mar 2014 22:26

The replacement caps are a taper fit.

You can make your own by smashing a top pin with a hammer so that it is larger diameter, then taper one end slightly.
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Re: Circles on outside of padlock body?

Postby Raymond » 25 Mar 2014 23:03

The large hole closest to the shackle is where the body was drilled for the locking bolts and spring. The next pin hole may be the plug retainer pin, followed by the 5 or 6 active pins. When this cap is removed there may be a long pin that fits in a groove around the plug to hold the plug in. Some padlocks have the plug and shackle retainer pins drilled through the face of the padlock body instead of on the side. You can often see similar 'circles' on the face of the padlock. FYI
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Re: Circles on outside of padlock body?

Postby zeke79 » 26 Mar 2014 5:58

You can also heat the lock and dunk it in cold water to get the plugs out or ATLEAST start them on their way out. Doing this can weaken springs and discolor the lock.
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