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Need cheaper than Schlage, better than masterlock or kwikset

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Need cheaper than Schlage, better than masterlock or kwikset

Postby Kodack » 22 Oct 2004 23:07

I'm looking for a next step lock with one or more spool pins to practice on. I've got the hang of my masterlock #140 with security pins but it only has 4 pins. Schlages are $30-$40 which is pricey for a practice lock.

I've seen people talk about Yales, but it's usually about how easy they are.

Do you have any recommendations or links to where I can buy?
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Postby Fallen_Pin » 23 Oct 2004 1:39

Beginners like us should try to burrow rather than buy =P
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Postby skold » 23 Oct 2004 3:57

fallen_pin - it is not wise to direct people if to steal rather than buy, not in these forums anyways
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Postby Buggs41 » 23 Oct 2004 7:51

Fallen_Pin wrote:Beginners like us should try to burrow rather than buy =P




He said burrow, as in dig a hole. Good idea Fallen-Pin. Dig it very deep so you have room for all the mates you encourage to break the law.
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Postby randmguy » 23 Oct 2004 9:54

Stand easy there. Some of the time advising someone to BORROW something means just what it sounds like. Asking friends and neighbors if they have an old lock lying about that they would let you BORROW for the purpose of practicing your lockpicking.

For those of you who are just too suspicious or jaded from hanging out in forums, I'll remind you what BORROW means.


BORROW: 1 a : to receive with the implied or expressed intention of returning the same or an equivalent <borrow a book> <borrowed a dollar> b : to borrow (money) with the intention of returning the same plus interest
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Postby Buggs41 » 23 Oct 2004 10:38

Yes, borrowing means you will return the item when you are done.

I really don't think Fallen plans on returning the bike spokes he 'liberated' from that 'abandoned' bike.

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Postby poisoned » 23 Oct 2004 12:29

I really don't think Fallen plans on returning the bike spokes he 'liberated' from that 'abandoned' bike.
Was that your bike :lol: Well enough about that.. :roll:

I think a 5-pin Abus padlock could be a nice challenge for u Kodack..
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Postby Kodack » 23 Oct 2004 15:05

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Postby poisoned » 24 Oct 2004 6:19

Well those rekeyable models would be sweet but if u dont want to spend too much then I think that 85/50-brass model would be good.. Go check www.abus.com for more info.. Im actually going to buy one for my self right now, so I'll let u know what its like.. :)
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Postby poisoned » 24 Oct 2004 6:23

Actually I have to wait till tomorrow.. its sunday and the store is closed.. :roll:
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Postby Kodack » 24 Oct 2004 12:50

I ordered the 85/50 and a 5 pin cylinder for American military series locks.

Will I need modified picks to get into the Abus? I can't see the keyhole very well but after searching posts I've seen people mention the shape making it hard to manipulate.
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Postby poisoned » 24 Oct 2004 15:58

I have used the HPC 2000 series picks and Southord slimline picks.. The keyway is a bit restricted so i think u need some slim picks..
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Postby PickPick » 24 Oct 2004 16:22

Standard picks are ok for Abus85/something, but it's easier with slim picks. If you haven't read about spool pins/modified pins yet, inform yourself by reading the relevant parts in the former MIT Guide. These locks feature the typical 'lock with spool pins'-behaviour. You need to get used to it but after that it's not that hard anymore.
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Postby locksmistress » 25 Oct 2004 15:57

Cheap high quality locks? Dumpster diving.

As long as you don't mind them not having keys. Residential and commercial remodeling projects yield fabulous amounts of lovely door hardware that's only real flaw is that it's usually attached to a door.

In many cases it is illegal to take things out of dumpsters. I was mortified at first, but found that it's actualy quite easy to ask your neighbor's permission to go through their construction waste. Either that or you can talk to the company that rents the dumpsters and check stuff out at their yard.

To something like 99% of the world, a lock with no key is garbage. Pretty sweet for the rest of us.
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Postby Kodack » 25 Oct 2004 18:28

locksmistress wrote:Cheap high quality locks? Dumpster diving.

As long as you don't mind them not having keys. Residential and commercial remodeling projects yield fabulous amounts of lovely door hardware that's only real flaw is that it's usually attached to a door.

In many cases it is illegal to take things out of dumpsters. I was mortified at first, but found that it's actualy quite easy to ask your neighbor's permission to go through their construction waste. Either that or you can talk to the company that rents the dumpsters and check stuff out at their yard.

To something like 99% of the world, a lock with no key is garbage. Pretty sweet for the rest of us.


Dumpster diving eh? It sounds like someone is a little h4x0r ish. Hehehe.

I dont like digging for stuff but thanks for the heads up. I actually did put up an ad on our companies for sale page looking to buy unused locks.
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