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SG US Model 951 2009 Picking Info

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SG US Model 951 2009 Picking Info

Postby Wrickter » 19 Aug 2014 11:06

Good afternoon everyone. I have been picking for about a year as a hobby and grabbing up all the locks I can test out. I am currently making my way through the American 5200's fairly well. My old roommate had left in our room a brand new SG US Model 951 2009. I did a little research and it looks to be a beast (heavy at that).

Im wondering if anyone has any good picking advice on this batboy. I have a feeling this will be a bucket list pick and i hope to pop it before i grow to old haha.

I have a standard pick set, nothing fancy. Any recommendations on picks for this would be helpful.

Thanks

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Re: SG US Model 951 2009 Picking Info

Postby Squelchtone » 19 Aug 2014 12:30

Wrickter wrote:Good afternoon everyone. I have been picking for about a year as a hobby and grabbing up all the locks I can test out. I am currently making my way through the American 5200's fairly well. My old roommate had left in our room a brand new SG US Model 951 2009. I did a little research and it looks to be a beast (heavy at that).

Im wondering if anyone has any good picking advice on this batboy. I have a feeling this will be a bucket list pick and i hope to pop it before i grow to old haha.

I have a standard pick set, nothing fancy. Any recommendations on picks for this would be helpful.

Thanks

Eric


Look up how to pick Medeco

All the S&G 951 is inside is a Medeco door knob cylinder. Once you understand how Medeco mechanisms work, you can pick it. It will take time and practice but is not impossible.

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Re: SG US Model 951 2009 Picking Info

Postby Wrickter » 19 Aug 2014 14:42

Thanks Squelchtone, I had looked into them in regards of rotating pins but I'm looking for any advice on how to actually rotate them... any technique out there that is useful. Is there a certain pick that works better. I use a standard hook and a perterson pry bar top of they keyway tensioner.
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Re: SG US Model 951 2009 Picking Info

Postby GWiens2001 » 19 Aug 2014 16:37

A half diamond or Bogota works well for turning them.

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Re: SG US Model 951 2009 Picking Info

Postby phrygianradar » 19 Aug 2014 18:52

Those are tough nuts to crack. You could look up the youtube video by Bosnian Bill where he goes through picking Medeco locks. Personally, I use telekinesis to rotate the pins. :wink:
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Re: SG US Model 951 2009 Picking Info

Postby GWiens2001 » 19 Aug 2014 23:43

Phry is such a show-off. But his telekinesis sure does liven up a party!

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Re: SG US Model 951 2009 Picking Info

Postby Wrickter » 20 Aug 2014 12:26

phrygianradar wrote:Those are tough nuts to crack. You could look up the youtube video by Bosnian Bill where he goes through picking Medeco locks. Personally, I use telekinesis to rotate the pins. :wink:


Nice! Well the force isn't that strong with me yet.... but I'm working on it.

I was trying to figure out if it has an M3 Medeco inside but I don't see a slide bar. It must be an older version.
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Re: SG US Model 951 2009 Picking Info

Postby Squelchtone » 20 Aug 2014 12:56

Wrickter wrote:
phrygianradar wrote:Those are tough nuts to crack. You could look up the youtube video by Bosnian Bill where he goes through picking Medeco locks. Personally, I use telekinesis to rotate the pins. :wink:


Nice! Well the force isn't that strong with me yet.... but I'm working on it.

I was trying to figure out if it has an M3 Medeco inside but I don't see a slide bar. It must be an older version.


Show us a photo of the keyway =) typically though the R1 and D4 Medeco keyways didn't use the M3 slider technology (afaik)

To rotate the pins, insert the half diamond at a \ or / 45 degree angle in order to grab the bottom right or left of the pin and pull or push it to make it twist on it's axis.

A Bogota rake from Raimundo is a great tool to have when picking Medeco, but some folks like FarmerFreak can open them with just a hook and tension wrench. I prefer to rake the angles into submission, then use a hook to pick the pins to shear line, or pick to shear line first, then rake rake rake and set the angles =)

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Re: SG US Model 951 2009 Picking Info

Postby Wrickter » 21 Aug 2014 5:52

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Here she is. Now... when you get a pin rotated to the right spot, does it click? or is it just a feel? I haven't been able to find the info on what sensations set off the alarm that it's good and to move on.

I'm currently deployed at the moment, so i will have to stick to the pick set i have. It should be fine. Its the 20 piece SouthOrd set.

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Re: SG US Model 951 2009 Picking Info

Postby mseifert » 21 Aug 2014 18:00

Wrickter wrote:Image

Here she is. Now... when you get a pin rotated to the right spot, does it click? or is it just a feel? I haven't been able to find the info on what sensations set off the alarm that it's good and to move on.

I'm currently deployed at the moment, so i will have to stick to the pick set i have. It should be fine. Its the 20 piece SouthOrd set.

Eric


I hope your not picking the lock to your Arms Room Door.. I would hate to see you mess it up and get called to carpet..
When I finally leave this world.. Will someone please tell my wife what I have REALLY spent on locks ...
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Re: SG US Model 951 2009 Picking Info

Postby Wrickter » 21 Aug 2014 23:22

I hope your not picking the lock to your Arms Room Door.. I would hate to see you mess it up and get called to carpet..



No no no lol, I have friends that hook me up from time to time with extras. He left it for me to play with since he knows i love picking. Trust me, nothing sinister to see here =)

The Armory gave me 10 American 5200's yesterday because they had a bunch that were missing keys. So i took them off their hands.

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