Unpickable strongbox/lockbox

[Adam2344]

I was gifted a Honeywell lockbox and it works well enough as the few items of importance I have are worth nothing monetarily. However I have found the lock relies only on the third pin. The others do not bind rather they slide up and down serving very little purpose. Does anyone have any suggestions on a lockbox that has a superior lock? Price is not much of an issue.

[Squelchtone]

I was gifted a Honeywell lockbox and it works well enough as the few items of importance I have are worth nothing monetarily. However I have found the lock relies only on the third pin. The others do not bind rather they slide up and down serving very little purpose. Does anyone have any suggestions on a lockbox that has a superior lock? Price is not much of an issue.

whats the point of a superior lock if someone can just steal the lock box take it home and smash it with a hammer a few dozen times?

Do you need a floor safe instead? or is this like a little aluminum petty cash box, I'm having trouble imagining what you have and what its main purpose is. is it for fire protection so a passport doesnt get lost, or is it for petty cash? is it mounted to a wall with screws only or does it simply sit on your desk or shelf?

HPC makes a nice wall cabinet which uses either a safe lock with combination wheel or a Medeceo cam lock. look for their KeKab products

http://shop.peiferlock.com/index.php?ma ... ilter_id=0

if it does not come with a Medeco or Abloy or Bilock cam lock, you can remove the wafer cam lock the box comes with and buy a high security lock which will be a lot harder to pick and drill.

hope this helps, if you want to post a photo please upload your lockbox pic to http://imgur.com

Squelchtone

EDIT: is it this thing?


I think that only *looks* like good protection, that lock is junk though..

[Adam2344]

That is the precise lock box and you are quite right about the lock. I need move two of the three pins and it will unlock. I do have plans to purchase a wall safe though I assumed it'd be cheaper to buy a quality lockbox and install it myself. If a wall safe is different then a lockbox, other then opening from the top rather then the front, please excuse my ignorance. It will be primarily used for documents such as a passport and birth certificates. I may have things of greater value stored in it at a later date, at the moment however, I can think of nothing more.

[billdeserthills]

I don't know about your honeywell lock box, but most wall safes aren't fire insulated, and many fire insulated boxes and safes just aren't very secure. I made my cheap Sentry fire safe more secure by locking it inside my large safe. I'm sure You realize that even the best wall safe can be pried out of the wall in a short amount of time, as it is only being secured by a couple of 2x4's, so you hafta hide them very well

[globallockytoo]

I don't know about your honeywell lock box, but most wall safes aren't fire insulated, and many fire insulated boxes and safes just aren't very secure. I made my cheap Sentry fire safe more secure by locking it inside my large safe. I'm sure You realize that even the best wall safe can be pried out of the wall in a short amount of time, as it is only being secured by a couple of 2x4's, so you hafta hide them very well

That's good advice. Bill is quite right.

In my opinion the best safe is an in floor mounted safe. One that is mounted in concrete. There is no necessity to construct a special vermiculite or fire protection body which makes most floor safes much cheaper. The fire protection is provided by the cement surrounding the body. Of course this means the safe is permanent, but with a TDR (Torch and Drill Resistant) head, no one will get that open, surreptitiously easily.

They can be a PITA to install but. (Good job for the apprentice)

[billdeserthills]

I can usually install an in the floor safe in under 4 hours, with the afore-mentioned apprentice's help. I like to go to a home store and rent a jackhammer, makes it much easier than my old man's method of hand scoring with a chisel and using a star punch to bust through the slab. Nowadays you hafta be careful the slab isn't tension wired, you don't want to cut through any of the wires as the slab could begin cracking up

[somenewguy]

When you cut a hole in the concrete in the floor of the basement, do you run the risk of water coming up through that hole you just made in the foundation?

[GWiens2001]

He lives in the desert. Not a lot of risk of ground water being high enough to reach the slab when that ground water level is a minimum 300 feet deep. And basements are uncommon here. They do exist here, but rarely.

Gordon

[billdeserthills]

When you cut a hole in the concrete in the floor of the basement, do you run the risk of water coming up through that hole you just made in the foundation?

As Gordon said I live in the desert, and I haven't ever heard of a problem with water coming up around the safe.I can't say I have ever installed a safe in a basement,
but, I can't see why there should be a problem though,
before I put the safe into the hole I made I wrap it in plastic, and then I place it into the cut-out and pack 2 inches of concrete around each side of the safe. The safe
is placed upon a red fire brick, so plenty of concrete gets underneath the safe, as well as around it. When I get done, the in the floor safe will withstand a fire, well
let's just say the contents of the safe will withstand a fire...

[somenewguy]

Note to self- check the "Location" of posters before asking questions

But I have always wondered about this, especially in other parts of the country, where basements are more common and water tables are higher.

Unrelated to safes, I have heard stories about people with basements that had so much hydraulic pressure behind the foundation walls, or under the slab, that tiny streams of water were shooting up out of small cracks in the concrete!

[GWiens2001]

Note to self- check the "Location" of posters before asking questions

But I have always wondered about this, especially in other parts of the country, where basements are more common and water tables are higher.

Unrelated to safes, I have heard stories about people with basements that had so much hydraulic pressure behind the foundation walls, or under the slab, that tiny streams of water were shooting up out of small cracks in the concrete!

Had that happen back in Pennsylvania. Also had a neighbor who had no basement who decided to dig his own. (Not uncommon there). Had to stop because the water table was only a few feet below his floor.

Gordon

[billdeserthills]

Note to self- check the "Location" of posters before asking questions

But I have always wondered about this, especially in other parts of the country, where basements are more common and water tables are higher.

Unrelated to safes, I have heard stories about people with basements that had so much hydraulic pressure behind the foundation walls, or under the slab, that tiny streams of water were shooting up out of small cracks in the concrete!

Had that happen back in Pennsylvania. Also had a neighbor who had no basement who decided to dig his own. (Not uncommon there). Had to stop because the water table was only a few feet below his floor.

Gordon

That sounds neat, just like when you're at the beach huh?