Dexter Door Knob Disassemble

[Divinorum]

Hey everyone! I was cleaning the garage this weekend and found what seems to be one half of a Dexter door knob set. Thankfully it's the half with the lock It seems like a pretty old door knob and it's really worn out. My guess is that it's a Dexter because the key says "DE6 For Dexter Locks". I was hoping to salvage the KIK cylinder out of it for picking. I'm stumped at how to get it out. There does not seem to be any holes at the base of the knob and the side near the spindle is blocked off. My only thought was to pry the clip looking things on the rose. Any help is greatly appreciated.

[Raymond]

Try picking the plug to 180 degrees and see if the front comes out of the knob housing.

[smokingman]

Kind of hard to tell,but in that picture it looks like there my be small rectangular piece below the knob on the right side
about the width of a small screwdriver blade.
If that is so, and if that key pictured works the lock, turn it 180 degrees and push that piece in with a screwdriver while pulling on the key.
If the key does not work, then pick it to this position and use
a hook to pull the keyway with.

[Divinorum]

Okay guys here is the update. While messing around with the knob I pulled on the spindle and it was springy. I remembered from one of kokomolock's videos that the Weiser knobs have a springy spindle. I pulled the spindle out as far as it would go and use a pair of vice grips to hold it in place. Put the key in the lock, turned and wiggled, and viola cylinder in hand! Now I'm not sure if this is a Weiser or a Dexter. Do some Dexter locks come apart this way? Or is this a Weiser lock with a Dexter key?

Edit: Wow the amount of gunky graphite in the cylinder is unbelievable. This thing definitely needs to soak for a while.

[Raymond]

I kinda thought it looked like a Harloc.

[1mrchristopher]

I think Raymond may be right, and that it is a Harloc, look at this:

[1mrchristopher]

Could be Dexter though...

[cledry]

Do you have two slotted screws on the back of the cylinder? If so it is a Dexter. The way the plug protrudes slightly says it is a Dexter.

[1mrchristopher]

Just goes to show, no number of books make up for experience! I think I see one of those screws in the picture, Cledry.

[Divinorum]

Thanks for the information guys. The plug does not have any screws at the back. After looking over the pictures of the service manual I do believe it is a Harloc. If you look at the second page of the Harloc manual, the top diagram looks identical to the knob. Part S is visible in the picture I posted with the cylinder removed. That S part that interacts with the cylinder comes off the spindle exactly like the diagram.

[cledry]

Easy way to determine if it is a Harloc is to lock the knob and then rapidly spin the outer knob between your palms and it should unlock as if by magic. We had a neighborhood here in Orlando that used Harlocs and all I tried could be opened like this.