BEST training

[intraining]

Were can I find info in BEST I/C products. We use BEST at work id like to learn a little more than pinning locks and cutting keys

[jeffmoss26]

Welcome - this is an excellent resource http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/sfic/

[grit2]

Do you have any specific questions? I have a lot of experience with SFIC lock systems. There are a few others here that do too!

[2octops]

If you are using an A2 system, add 10 to get the control and everything adds up to 23.

As long as you remember that, you can do anything with them just like a regular cylinder.

[intraining]

So many questions...when pinning a core, a mastered series with 4 pins in each chamber. Is it possible to split a pin so there are 5 in 1 chamber to make it more of a secured lock?

[grit2]

There are a very limited number of circumstances where you would want to split pins to make 5 in a chamber...basically you shouldn't do it.

More splits actually make for a far LESS secure lock. More splits make for more possibility of key interchange, and easier picking.

[cledry]

So many questions...when pinning a core, a mastered series with 4 pins in each chamber. Is it possible to split a pin so there are 5 in 1 chamber to make it more of a secured lock?

More shear lines = less secure.

[intraining]

I greatly appreciate all the replys. Its has cleared up a few things that would have wasted alot of time and gotten me nowhere.
When it comes to lockpicking, do I need to take a course or be licensed to use/carry picks with me. I live in southern ontario. We also deal with alot of office stuff like file cabinets and desks where they loose their keys

[jeffmoss26]

You would want to verify the laws in your town/province.

[serrurier]

I greatly appreciate all the replys. Its has cleared up a few things that would have wasted alot of time and gotten me nowhere.
When it comes to lockpicking, do I need to take a course or be licensed to use/carry picks with me. I live in southern ontario. We also deal with alot of office stuff like file cabinets and desks where they loose their keys

That is an excellent question which I have tried to find an answer to and have yet to be able to get a definite one. If you find anything it would be appreciated if you could let us know.

tks

[grit2]

I greatly appreciate all the replys. Its has cleared up a few things that would have wasted alot of time and gotten me nowhere.
When it comes to lockpicking, do I need to take a course or be licensed to use/carry picks with me. I live in southern ontario. We also deal with alot of office stuff like file cabinets and desks where they loose their keys

When I'm called to deal with cabinet lock issues, before even thinking about picking I grab for my set of standard keys and master keys. Many manufacturers of office furniture use standard, off-the-shelf master-keyed disc tumbler cam locks. I have master keys for the locks Steelcase uses (mostly Chicago but also some Timerline) and the ESP and associated knock-off locks used by Hon and a number of other families of furniture. There is a great write-up done by MacGyver101 here: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=51566 that describes how these work in the context of Haworth office furniture.

Barring a true master, I have a few "jiggler" keys that are just regular run-of-the-mill disc tumbler keys I've found will open lots of locks they're not intended to, just with the right technique. Everyone likes slightly different keys, but I'm partial to the CH751 key along with the 3 keys that come with MidAtlantic A/V products (front door, rear door and rack drawer).

[jeffmoss26]

Ahh yes, B399A, B644A, and C420A