Jimmy-proof lock VS Deadbolt

[dmanthelocksmith]

Quick question for everyone.

I was wondering what is thought of as better security for a front door... a standard deadbolt or a jimmy-proof deadlock?

I am renting a place in the Southern CA area and have a Schlage deadbolt but I was thinking about adding (or replacing with) a Yale jimmy-proof deadlock such as this:



Any thoughts?

-dmanthelocksmith

[GWiens2001]

The jimmy-proof lock, properly installed, tends to be much more secure from forced entry than a deadbolt. However, as that is a rental you are referring to, you should check your rental contract and with your landlord to be sure that it is permitted for you to change locks. Many rental contracts do not permit the renter to change locks. At the very least, the contract will require you to give the landlord a key.

Gordon

[dmanthelocksmith]

Thanks Gordon,

I might see if I can maybe add it and key the same with a Schlage rim cylinder.

Then again it's drilling a new hole in the door so I don't know if it will fly haha.

It's at least good to know that the jimmy-proof lock is better security.

-dmanthelocksmith

[cledry]

Not only drilling a new hole. The Jimmy Proof lock requires a fair bit of work on the frame too.

[dll932]

Just one man's opinion: To make one really secure you'd need some kind of armored cover for the rim cylinder, along with screws that go nearly all the way through the door to mount the chassis. For the strike, I'd use the longest possible screws I could-like 3 inches or more.

[Q3b]

I would recommend the yale mor then a schlage deadbolt but that's just me
so....

[billdeserthills]

Are all of You kidding? Everything recommended can be bumped open or picked

[dmanthelocksmith]

Are all of You kidding? Everything recommended can be bumped open or picked

This is true. I was thinking more defense against brute force like kicking the door in. These are definitely pickable.

[billdeserthills]

Quick question for everyone.

I was wondering what is thought of as better security for a front door... a standard deadbolt or a jimmy-proof deadlock?

I am renting a place in the Southern CA area and have a Schlage deadbolt but I was thinking about adding (or replacing with) a Yale jimmy-proof deadlock such as this:



Any thoughts?

-dmanthelocksmith

I think you should at least install a decent, high security rim cylinder. Personally, I love the jimmyproof, especially what medeco has done with it,
The medeco bodyguard is lovely as well, as an outer lock accessory

[globallockytoo]

I agree with Bill however I prefer Bilock or Protec cylinders.

When installing the jimmy proof, be sure to install long screws in the strike.

I sell the Australian made Lockwood 305 rim....which is significantly more expensive and much better quality than the Bird Jimmy. It is not a strong as the discontinued Abloy Super-Stopper, but looks good and works very well. The rim lock is installed to the door with 6 screws. And the strike is also available flanged, so it wraps around the jamb increasing the strength of the fitting

[ARF-GEF]

When installing the jimmy proof, be sure to install long screws in the strike.

+1 on that. Remember, all the screw on locks are only so good as well they are fixed to the door & the frame.
For reference: The ones which are only secured by 2 weaker screws each don't even withstand a couple of forceful kicks.

[hag3l3]

You could always install the NY lock bar on your door, you might need to check your areas life safety codes first. Most fire departments, as well as police frown on it.
it is the best security you can get... if you are looking for security for your door.
hope this helps.

[GWiens2001]

All hinges locks and strikes to any door in my house that screw into wood are replaced with 3 1/2" (almost 9 cm for the metrically inclined) long wood screws.

Also have taken five 3/8" (.95 cm) thick bolts 3" (7.6 cm) long and screwed them most of the way into the door frame on the same side of the hinges. Cut off the heads of the bolts, leaving about 1/2" (1.26 cm) of the bolt shaft sticking out. Start to close the door until it is stopped by the bolts. Open it back up and drill holes barely large/deep enough for the bolts to fit with the door closed. The hinge side of the door is now strongly reinforced. (If you have a decent door).

Gordon

[billdeserthills]

You could always install the NY lock bar on your door, you might need to check your areas life safety codes first. Most fire departments, as well as police frown on it.
it is the best security you can get... if you are looking for security for your door.
hope this helps.

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[Armstrong]

Both are gonna be the same unless you change the keyway cylinder, I am a locksmith and have 15 years of experience, I would use the jimmy proof lock but in one condition to replace the cylindr withcore keyway rim cylinder that's when you know your place is safe. Or i would put LSDA Keyway Rim Cylinder so that way nobody can pick it.