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Choosing a practice lock

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Choosing a practice lock

Postby Banjoguyyy » 21 Nov 2014 13:09

Hey folks, I'm fairly new to lock picking and i am thinking about buying a practice lock. Which of these do yall think would be better, this one Image or this one, Image I'm open to suggestions on other locks to look at.



Also, where could i buy security pins at to re-pin these locks, I couldn't find anyone that sells them.
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Re: Choosing a practice lock

Postby doublez » 21 Nov 2014 20:14

Hard to say which one is better without seeing the name/insides of the first one.

I've heard good things about Mr. Wizard's practice lock, and it comes with some security pins as well :)

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Re: Choosing a practice lock

Postby Divinorum » 21 Nov 2014 21:51

I recommend Mr wizards lock hands down. The only benefit to a cut away is that it helps visualize how the working parts within a lock work together. IMO A cut away won't help you learn to pick faster. It might even work as a handicap because you are temped to cheat and look at the pins instead of rely of your other senses. I started with a cutaway and can say it was a waste of money once I understood how the top and bottom pins work. Looking back i would have rather saved my money.
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Re: Choosing a practice lock

Postby Banjoguyyy » 21 Nov 2014 22:14

Ok, thanks for the info, Ill look into the wizard practice lock.
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Re: Choosing a practice lock

Postby Banjoguyyy » 21 Nov 2014 22:26

What would really be the difference between the wizard http://www.ebay.com/itm/Improved-Super- ... 1467932058


and this corbin lock
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Corbin-6-Pin-Ea ... 4ae0461d14

Besides 25 extra for the wizard.
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Re: Choosing a practice lock

Postby Divinorum » 22 Nov 2014 10:12

They are both Mr. Wizard practice locks (same seller). Differences I can see from reading the page are...

Corbin: Refreshed Cylinder (used), Up to 6 pins, Advanced Complex B2 Keyway (slim and euro picks recommended).
Improved Super Max 7: Brand new cylinder, Up to 7 pins, Schlage SC1 keyway (normal picks okay).

Maybe someone else out there knows more about the difference?
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Re: Choosing a practice lock

Postby docjon » 23 Nov 2014 8:23

It's been my experience that no matter what you choose you will gain experience. That being said, if you have an opportunity to be able to change pins I think I would buy that one. This is a descision based on sight unseen. Docjon
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Re: Choosing a practice lock

Postby sentientsentinel » 16 Feb 2015 23:11

I heard good things about MrWizards Improved Super Max 7 Pin Easy Rekey Practice Lock,so I bought one off ebay today.This practice lock should save me money as you can repin it over and over again without having to have locksmith tools or buying a whole bunch of different cylinders.I'll put a post up when I receive it.Its nice to know someone who spends time helping others will get the money too.
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Re: Choosing a practice lock

Postby GWiens2001 » 16 Feb 2015 23:19

sentientsentinel wrote:I heard good things about MrWizards Improved Super Max 7 Pin Easy Rekey Practice Lock,so I bought one off ebay today.This practice lock should save me money as you can repin it over and over again without having to have locksmith tools or buying a whole bunch of different cylinders.I'll put a post up when I receive it.Its nice to know someone who spends time helping others will get the money too.


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Re: Choosing a practice lock

Postby sentientsentinel » 17 Feb 2015 9:09

lol I could use the sun and warmth too I'm in southern Wisconsin.
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Re: Choosing a practice lock

Postby nite0wl » 17 Feb 2015 15:43

Since everyone else seems to have answered the main part of your question, I will just add the note that it is not advisable to practice picking on cutaway and transparent locks. They do let you see what you are doing (and how close you are to setting something) but they can be very easy to damage/break and they will provide some different feedback and feeling compared to an actual lock.
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Re: Choosing a practice lock

Postby deolslyfox » 17 Feb 2015 15:53

Get yourself some cheap 4-pin MASTER locks to start with .... After you get the hand of these, get a lock that has a removable cylinder.

Take it apart and look at the innards .... (Note: You'll need some sort of plug follower and tweezers). You will learn a lot more about how a lock works and how to pick it by doing this then you will picking a lock that you can see pins setting, etc. (Cut-aways, etc).

These don't have to be new locks. In fact, for the first couple "guttings", its probably better that they aren't as most people will forget the plug follower and spray springs and pins all over the place, never to be seen again. :) That's the voice of experience BTW ....

Taking the lock apart and looking at all the pieces will help you get a "mental image" of what is going on inside the lock as you pick and hear the various sounds such as the "click" of a spool pin setting or the "crunch" of a serrated pin.

If you want to see a "transparent / cut-away" lock being picked, there are all sorts of videos on YouTube that you can watch for free.
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