Thinking of upgrading your door security? Getting a better deadbolt or padlock? Getting a new frame or better hinges? Not sure what brand or model to go with for your particular application? Need a recommendation? Feel free to ask for advice here!
by Asoamylacetate » 10 Dec 2014 1:06
Hi guys Any recommendation among the following? EVVA DPI, ASSA Twin V10, TrioVing DP10, MTL MT5+, EVVA 3KS, EVVA MCS, Fichet 787 I am worried about the security of the front door. Not so concerned about picking & bumping but destructive/forced entry resistance Any suggestions? Thanks
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by GWiens2001 » 10 Dec 2014 18:45
If you have a secure door, door jam, windows, etcetera, and are concerned with destructive entry, and already have the armor mentioned above, then you can consider a lock shield like the Drumm Gemini Shield.
If you are starting with a new (secure) door, then consider getting a Dom Diamont. It is supposed to be tough enough to not require a shield. Then you will have a high degree of pick resistance and very solid protection from destructive entry.
But as stated before, a magnificent lock on a junk door is no more secure than a junk lock. You would be wise to spend money on the whole picture, rather than focusing on the lock.
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by nite0wl » 18 Dec 2014 11:57
I know that most of EVVA's higher end locks have plenty of anti-drilling measures and I think that Mul-T-Lock has some good hardening measures in most of their locks. I don't know much about the ASSA and TrioVing models you mentioned. Depending on the specific variation of the Fichet it may or may not be well hardened.
Frankly many of these locks, and lots of others can be hardened against destructive entry by either finding a version in a Medeco Bodyguard style housing or getting an aftermarket/third party armor cover which bolts on to the door and only exposes the plug face of the lock. Some manufacturers also offer model specific armored covers that obscure even the plug face for some of their high-security models.
Any of these locks and armoring options are just one part of a complete system, force resistant hinges and screws, shim and loiding protected latches and deadbolts, reenforcements and armoring on various other vulnerable sections of the door, shatterproof or armored glass in doors with windows, all contribute to the overall security of that specific entry point. To fully secure a home you would have to take similar measures on any and all potential points of entry.
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by Asoamylacetate » 21 Dec 2014 23:54
GWiens2001 & nite0wl Thanks a lot! 
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by nite0wl » 22 Dec 2014 16:35
I have never been to the Bahamas so I don't know what the market is like there but another consideration to look for is that there are different versions or security levels of some locks which are otherwise the same design. Commonly the hardened and more secure versions are referred to as "UL Listed" (for locks manufactured in or for the US market) or may list their CEN or BSI standards compliance. These ratings typically indicate a version of a lock that has been specifically tested for drill protection and other destructive entry resistant features (and, possibly some pick-resistance). This is very different from the BHMA/ANSI grading (3-basic residential, 2-light use commercial, 1-heavy use industrial/commercial) which rate locks based on expected service life and ability to survive in certain environments. You should ask you locksmith/retailer if the specific lock they are selling you is UL Listed or equivalent, if it is unrated it often lacks anti-drilling elements or is less hardened against brute-force attacks.
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by billdeserthills » 22 Dec 2014 20:36
I don't personally see the point on most homes. That is because on your average house it is already soo easy to get into the home via the windows, roof, garage door, sliding doors, etc that I can't see much point in drawing a line in the sand at the front door. Most criminals purposely do not choose the front door as an entry point anyhow, yet most of my clients want to see the magical Front door get some armored attention. Many of them think they need a chain on the door to keep law-breakers out. I like to let them know, if someone has their foot in your door, that door is as good as open. A peep hole is a much better choice than a safety chain because once you open the door, even a crack, that door can easily be opened the rest of the way.
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by dll932 » 29 Dec 2014 14:15
billdeserthills wrote:I don't personally see the point on most homes. That is because on your average house it is already soo easy to get into the home via the windows, roof, garage door, sliding doors, etc that I can't see much point in drawing a line in the sand at the front door. Most criminals purposely do not choose the front door as an entry point anyhow, yet most of my clients want to see the magical Front door get some armored attention. Many of them think they need a chain on the door to keep law-breakers out. I like to let them know, if someone has their foot in your door, that door is as good as open. A peep hole is a much better choice than a safety chain because once you open the door, even a crack, that door can easily be opened the rest of the way.
Yes, don't forget the BACK door, which hopefully isn't the sliding glass type!
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