Unknown Safe, Combination known - Key needed?

[palaris]

Good morning,

my father passed away one week ago. Going through his belongings I've found the code for a safe (photo http://de.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=p226a&s=8#.VKkOZXtXv-t) I knew he had. This code is written on a paper like this:

no1x4xR, no2x3xL, no3x2xR, no4x1xL.

I have been trying to use these codes, but it seems I am doing something wrong, because I cannot open it. My way of doing it:

turn the dial to the right, pass no1 three times, stop at no1
then turn left-pass no2 two times, stop at no2
turn right, pass no3 one time - stop at no3
turn left and stop directly at no4.

Nothing happens and I am sure the combination is right...

I am kindly asking for your help....Am I doing something wrong? Do I need maybe also a key for this safe, the number combination is not enough?

Very grateful for any suggestion and many thanks!

[hag3l3]

Hello. Happy new year.
Most 4 dial combination dI also thus :
Turn dial 4 xs left then to number, 3 xs right to number, 2 xs left to number, 1 xs right to number,
Then turn dial left until stops. Then safe should open. ......
hope this helps

[palaris]

Happy new year and thank you for your answer....

When you say "4xs to the number", it means I have the pass the number or the "0" ? Since on my paper it says first "R", do I follow your steps starting to the right?

I was thinking, since the safe has no handle to be turned, also a key will be necessary to open it...Or the door will simply "pop-up"?

Thanks!

[hag3l3]

okay did some quick researchcombination pattern is as follows. ....
1. Insert key into lock.
2. Turn dial 4 times to RIGHT stop on number
3. Turn dial 3 times to LEFT stop on number
4. Turn dial 2 times to RIGHT stop on number
5. Turn dial 1 times to LEFT stop on number
A. Turn key to open
B. Turn dial RIGHT past 0 until stops, turn key to open.
(A or B) : Two different ways to utilize key option.
Hope this helps ......

[GWiens2001]

Is what you typed on the opening post actually what was written? If so, it looks like that is just dialing directions, not the actual combo.

Gordon

[palaris]

Hi, I replaced the real 4 numbers with "no1", "no2", "no3", no4" ..... So the combo shall be right.

[GWiens2001]

Good. Just wanted to be clear.

Yes, fairly sure a key is needed. Once the combo is dialed, the key is used like a handle to move the boltwork. It also, while moving the boltwork will move the fence into the disc pack - a direct entry fence.

Gordon

[2octops]

Yup that is direct entry.

Dial combo then turn key to open the door.