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</Scorpion> TV Safe Cracking

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</Scorpion> TV Safe Cracking

Postby mseifert » 5 Jan 2015 22:21

I'm not sure if anyone else watches the show </Scorpion>.. if not i will not go into details .. you can Google it .. Well on a couple of different episodes that have placed a glass of water on the op of a safe and started manipulating the dial until there was a shake of the water.. Supposedly this was caused by the fence falling into the gates on the disks..

Since I only have a theoretical knowledge of safe cracking .. I have not heard of any mention like this to open a combination dial.. Can one of my safe cracking brethren give any insight on this technique.
When I finally leave this world.. Will someone please tell my wife what I have REALLY spent on locks ...
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Re: </Scorpion> TV Safe Cracking

Postby blue60 » 5 Jan 2015 23:36

I think the only insight on this technique is it's for TV.. from the little bit of spinning I have done I cant see this working at all.
(someone please prove me wrong so I can stop practicing and just use this method :wink: )

I have never heard of the show but I will check it out, any show with safe cracking is worth checking out 2 or 3 episodes.
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Re: </Scorpion> TV Safe Cracking

Postby hag3l3 » 6 Jan 2015 3:08

Well ; that I can tell you from personal experience with safe opening and manipulation techniques will not work.
that is only for television.
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Re: </Scorpion> TV Safe Cracking

Postby mseifert » 7 Jan 2015 14:21

I figured it was strickly a "for TV" method.. but as stated I am not an expert on the subject..
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Re: </Scorpion> TV Safe Cracking

Postby Squelchtone » 7 Jan 2015 15:10

heh, I told someone at work that I like locks and I practice lock manipulation (there's a safe lock cutaway on my desk for everyone to see) and they asked if I sand down my fingerprints with sand paper so I can get a better feel.. Must be something from an old movie or tv show as well.
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Re: </Scorpion> TV Safe Cracking

Postby MacGyver101 » 7 Jan 2015 17:18

mseifert wrote:I figured it was strickly a "for TV" method...

It is: water simply doesn't conduct subtle vibrations well-enough for that to work.

Professionals use a glass of single-malt scotch: the alcohol is less dense, so the ripples are larger, and the darker colour helps with the contrast. They're just not allowed to promote "drinking and dialing" on TV. :wink:
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Re: </Scorpion> TV Safe Cracking

Postby GWiens2001 » 14 Jan 2015 7:57

MacGyver101 wrote:
mseifert wrote:I figured it was strickly a "for TV" method...

It is: water simply doesn't conduct subtle vibrations well-enough for that to work.

Professionals use a glass of single-malt scotch: the alcohol is less dense, so the ripples are larger, and the darker colour helps with the contrast. They're just not allowed to promote "drinking and dialing" on TV. :wink:



Cognac has the wrong properties, Jack Daniel's will have you ready to open the safe using someone's head, and rum will allow you to open the safe - but you will wake up in the hold of a ship with a new job swabbing decks. So be sure to stick with the single-malt scotch.

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Re: </Scorpion> TV Safe Cracking

Postby torontosafecracker » 14 Jan 2015 11:04

Jack Daniels will not work, considering he died, kicking a safe.

lol, My aunt just asked me about this the other day. I'm gonna make a video and try it.

I can't see it working though. The dial moves, the cam and fence moves, even the wheels move..but i don't think the safe moves during manipulation, not even a little bit.


The sandpaper thing is not about sanding 'off' your prints, but just roughing them up so they become more sensitive. Don't think that works either.
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Re: </Scorpion> TV Safe Cracking

Postby YouLuckyFox » 14 Jan 2015 12:33

The sanding finger for sensitivity thing is used a lot in movies. In "Sniper," Tom Berenger can be seen sanding his trigger finger with an emery board and explains it is for sensitivity.
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Re: </Scorpion> TV Safe Cracking

Postby allan501 » 14 Jan 2015 15:40

Way to bored at work but ...

There is a way to "bug" a room so you can listen in on conversations by focusing a laser on the window. When there is sound in the room it will cause the window to vibrate like the cone of a speaker. (If you played with old radios you could use a speaker as a microphone) By focusing a telescope on the laser dot on the window you could measure the vibrations and play them back as sounds. It actually works reasonably well even with a fairly simple home brew rig.

You could probably do something similar to measure the vibrations of the safe and using electronics you could also pick up frequencies you can't hear or have the system indicate distinctive sounds such as clicks that you might miss.

It would certainly look cool on television.

In practice a contact microphone would probably work better and I think there would be too much general noise to hear anything useful.
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Re: </Scorpion> TV Safe Cracking

Postby me+lock12 » 14 Jan 2015 23:08

This guy seems to be legit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw_4HQMS-pk .
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Re: </Scorpion> TV Safe Cracking

Postby Squelchtone » 15 Jan 2015 4:10

me+lock12 wrote:This guy seems to be legit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw_4HQMS-pk .


heh, yep, we know Jeff Sitar. very nice guy, super modest about his skills.
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Re: </Scorpion> TV Safe Cracking

Postby allan501 » 15 Jan 2015 12:42

me+lock12 wrote:This guy seems to be legit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw_4HQMS-pk .


My jaw is on my desk :shock: Does he ever do any public speaking about this?
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