who makes this, and how do I remove it?

[oldsmokey77]

While doing a commercial rekey job today, I came across a fire door with a deadbolt installed. I need to rekey it. Both inside and outside rings turn freely, and there are no visible screws to remove. It has a schlage C keyway outside, and a thumb turn on the inside. I've tried turning the rosettes on the inside and outside... They just spin. Can't see anything from the latch side either. The lock is about 10 years old, if it was installed originally. I've searched Google images extensively and haven't found a pic of one like it. I'm stumped. I'd post a pic or two of someone can tell me how to from a mobile device...

Thanks in advance!

[1mrchristopher]

Do a search for Lori deadbolt.

[oldsmokey77]

Thank you very much! I will do that.

[billdeserthills]

I would just tell you, but I'm still trying to figure out what kinda locksmith doesn't know about a lori lock?

[oldsmokey77]

Ouch man. Just a newb. I've never encountered one in 2 years. Still learning. Give a guy a break. Sheesh.

[g_kinz]

i never heard of a lori lock been smithing 4 years. no need to be a douche about it. we only learn from what we come across.

[GWiens2001]

Locksmiths tend not to be knowledgeable on all locks out there. They are most familiar with what is used in their geographic locality.

There are some quite experienced locksmiths here in town, a few who have been working the trade for four or more decades. But they still say "What the #### is that!!!" when I bring in something particularly odd. (Which is one of my favored pastimes).

How often have you worked on Sofer? Worked on a ISEO pump key lock lately? How about a Fichet 666A? Been cutting keys for an Medeco Duracam or LOB TUR1 lately? When was the last time you rekeyed a DOM Premium? How about a Ford Tibbe lock?

Just because a person is an experienced locksmith, let alone an apprentice or beginning locksmith, does not mean they know all the locks out there, especially if the lock is not one commonly used in their kind of trade. Just because someone knowledgeable on some locks does not mean they know them all.

Gordon

[1mrchristopher]

One of the first things my mentor ever told me about was Lori deadbolts, as such I promptly forgot about them, having never seen one. Then on one of my first jobs, maybe 5 months later, I came across one and was at a loss, so had to give him a call. They don't seem to be used much where I am, and even if you've read about them, if you never deal with one in the wild, it might slip to the back of your mind and fall out.

[GWiens2001]

unless your mind is like mine... as empty as the vacuum of space.

Gordon

[billdeserthills]

Ouch man. Just a newb. I've never encountered one in 2 years. Still learning. Give a guy a break. Sheesh.

It's OK I already pmed oldsmokey77

[oldsmokey77]

Thank you all for the kind words and support, but Billdeserthills did indeed pm me immediately after his initial response and gave me some helpful tips and information on the construction of these locks, for which I'm grateful.

No offense taken here.

[cledry]

It is also sold under the Dorma brand and Ilco. I have hundreds of these things, occasionally they come in handy.

A better version is made by Russwin, not sure who had the design first though. DL3000

[1mrchristopher]

I had the distinct displeasure of removing a Corbin Russwin about 3 months ago, on a storage room in our local detention center (read that as jail folks). The lock was only 5 years old. It was a displeasure, because the installer tightened the set screw on one of the cylinders to the point of stripping the head out - that, after pinning the cylinder with brass bottom pins, and handing out nickel silver keys. This is a door that is unlocked and locked 10 to 20 times a day. I guess it isn't surprising that the brass pins started failing. Had to wrench the offending cylinder out, as there was no way to remove the set screw. Fortunately I had a matching cylinder to replace it with.

[billdeserthills]

It is also sold under the Dorma brand and Ilco. I have hundreds of these things, occasionally they come in handy.

A better version is made by Russwin, not sure who had the design first though. DL3000

I've also seen a version made by Omnia, seems decorator hardware doesn't like seeing screws

[dll932]

It was a Lori originally. They're decent locks. You can put any mortise cylinder in you want as long as it has an Adams Rite cam and you use the right spacing collars. You need an extra long allen wrench to tighten the setscrew.